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Postby 1992 DREAM TEAM » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:35 am

pp2 wrote:"...Yoga attempts to create a state in which we are always present *really present* in every action, in every moment."

yes :)

just adding something a little deeper

Ask this question, what starts before ... every feeling, every thought, every task, everything?

The answer is your breath ... so do it and do it well


Breath also occurs during and after. Before and after occur in the present. An emphasis must always be on unification. How do we connect the breath-body-mind?

WHO is making the connections?

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Postby newscalper » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:55 am

I do yoga as part of my training regimen and I can assure you that in that context it is not the peaceful tranquil, mind thing most think it is. Try going through 50 salutation sequences and feel the pain. Combines with martial arts = win.

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Postby pp2 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:16 am

1992 DREAM TEAM wrote:
pp2 wrote:"...Yoga attempts to create a state in which we are always present *really present* in every action, in every moment."

yes :)

just adding something a little deeper

Ask this question, what starts before ... every feeling, every thought, every task, everything?

The answer is your breath ... so do it and do it well


Breath also occurs during and after. Before and after occur in the present. An emphasis must always be on unification. How do we connect the breath-body-mind?

WHO is making the connections?


All I know is just to "be" and just to "know" is all I need to be in the present.

but I will contemplate on what you are trying to portray :wink:

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Postby pp2 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:27 am

newscalper wrote:I do yoga as part of my training regimen and I can assure you that in that context it is not the peaceful tranquil, mind thing most think it is. Try going through 50 salutation sequences and feel the pain. Combines with martial arts = win.


Yep, it's painful alright!

When I first started I found little value in yoga. I found breathing to be the hardest part when doing the poses, I just couldn't put emphasis on my breath at all. Now, after a few months I find it easier but I'm still like robocop.

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Postby 1992 DREAM TEAM » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:26 am

How do you perform 50 sun salutations with a distracted mind? Do you perform the 50th as well and with as much care and attention as the 1st or 10th or 30th? If so, that is very admirable and you should consider moving on to a greater variety of challenges. If not, I would be far more impressed with one salutation with total and complete concentration than doing 50 at 99%. But if it serves its purpose it is useful! Are you training for something in particular?



One might wonder how yoga can improve trading. Me too! Perhaps to assist in the removal of what is unnecessary. Mind, body, what is the difference? Why must there be one? Where is the line between the two?

Is trading about winning? Is trading about not losing? What is the difference and why must there be one?

Do not seek, only cease to cherish opinions.

Reality is not something you integrate into your personal view of things!!

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Postby newscalper » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:51 am

It's not yoga for yoga's sake. It's part of an integrated routine - weights, aerobics, yoga, martial arts etc. Purpose a super-strong, super-fit, great looking and functional body.

No point being rich if your body is an unhealthy, flabby POS.

Yoga is all about recovery and the CNS, helps with flexibility, stretching the muscle fascia, lung capacity, hitting small muscle groups not hit by the big exercises, taking care of the spine etc and it's TOUGH.

I do have to say you DO feel very very calm and tranquil after a tough yoga outing.

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Postby 1992 DREAM TEAM » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:29 pm

I do not mean to criticize, yoga means something different to everybody. A yogi might say that the integration of different processes into a larger one and the adjustments you make is more yoga than the physical exercises you are doing. Has your routine always been the same? Or has it developed and evolved as your body develops and evolves? This could also be yoga.

Yoga is just a name, it is important to not try and fit anything into the yoga "box". Yoga at its highest level remains nameless and is not yoga at all. My thought was that it could help traders see price through its processes of reduction, practice of attention, and physical reinforcement. Yoga is only one path, as TRO generously pointed out, zen is another. So is self-inquiry. Many paths, one way.

TRO is always saying TRADE what you SEE. I was fooled by one of his trick questions recently. When informed that I was incorrect, I wanted to say, "but I thought we were looking for rat entries since this is the rat thread." I was worried more about being right than seeing profit and taking action. An entire false universe can be constructed around being right or wrong and it ties itself up into a giant knot. Some realize this but are bent on untying the knot (so that they can be right), it is usually better to just throw it away and listen.

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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:04 am

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Postby technical.trader » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:32 am

1992 DREAM TEAM wrote:Try this before your next session, it only takes a few minutes. If you tend to be congested, you might want to do a nasal wash or blow your nose before. Steamy shower works, too.

Alternate Nostril Breathing:

Sit cross-legged or in a chair, whichever is more comfortable. Remember to relax and sit up straight, have some dignity! Using one hand, fold the index and third finger down. Touch the tip of your thumb and ring finger together and let the little finger rest gently aside the ring finger.

Bow your head slightly downward like you're putting a hood on. As you bow, let your awareness curve back into itself, cultivating a reflective state. Bring your hand up, open ring and thumb finger, and place them on the sides of your nostrils (don't pinch! lol)

Breathe naturally, try to let it come by itself, gently close your eyes.

0. Close the left nostril and exhale completely out the the right nostril
1. Inhale through the right nostril.
2. Close the right nostril and exhale through the left nostril.
3. Inhale through the left nostril.
4. Close the left nostril and exhale through the right nostril.

This completes one cycle. Repeat from 1 and continue for up to 20 cycles. Check that you are not slouching forward with your chest and keeping your breastbone upright (remember, dignity!). Open your eyes every 4-5 cycles to check. Also make sure you are not pressing so hard you are moving your septum or head off center.

When you are done, take a few moments to observe how you feel. How would you describe your state of mind?


Hi,

I just noticed the transformation in a person who did the above exercise (along with a few others) for just 35 days. Weight lost, colds gone, [highlight=red]thinking focussed[/highlight] and vastly better energy levels. In his own words, he started functioning much better at his job. Should be great for all of us in the trading community!

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Re: trading and yoga

Postby tiptip » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:53 am

thanks for sharing

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