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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby v8power » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:01 pm

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:20 pm

v8power wrote:
John S. wrote:
v8power wrote:Lets see. Trade from extremes such as HTF, +2day or BOx (break out/break in). Use max 35 pip box with sl at extreme. Wait for price to enter. Add zero to your account while laughing at little cry babies who lash out cause they are so frustrated they cant trade. Red lines mark breakout/break-in trades. Aqua line marks 2 day extreme. Also the weekly had a double failure set up and a perfect example of a real mighty zone/zline trade (back to back candles). Almost 300 pips from the weekly trade and almosts 400 pips from the 3 daily trades.

Plus had other small trades and this was one pair. Less then 40 hours worth of work. All from a testifiable, verifiable,repeatable strategies from this very thread. I would say that was pretty mighty and who ever thought of those ideas was very mighty. Please nobody listen to what is taught in this thread. You might actually become a profitable trader.



P.S. Yes I know had my own little hissy fit a few weeks ago. But I had been up for 3 days straight, dealing with personal issues and about a fifth of jack in me. Were Im from families can fight and argue, but always have each others back and Kreslik is my trading family.

Please feel free to resume with your pointless posts, childish remarks and claims of being a profitable trader when your clearly not.


The title of this thread is "The IDEAS that I trade by." There are only CONCEPTS on this thread (not that there's anything wrong with that....lmao).

However, I've seen NOTHING in this thread that is truly "testifiable, verifable, repeatble." If there is actually one "testifiable, verifyable, repeatable" strategy here, then please tell everyone what it is. Please tell the exact entry and exit rules, with statistically proven expectancy profit target, stop loss, win/loss ratio and win/loss percentage. I'd love to see it! Thanks for responding! :lol:


Let me start by saying that this is just my opinon and the way I haave interpreted things of MO's ideas. I by no means speak for him or anything else. But since this post actually seems to be on the respectful side I will reply. All of the ideas are repeatable. I test all ideas before trading. And verify what I am looking for.

There are no strategies here and MO has made that clear from day one. He offers ideas, not systems or set ups. So I don't know why you seem so upset. MO just offers us paint and brushes and lets us paint what we see. Win/loss percentage? Lets see. MO had no losses in 2010 and dragon has gone 127 trades before having lost one. So 99.3%. Now just because you or anyone else cant achieve that same win loss ratio does not mean that it isn't real. Look at the Turtle traders. They were trained by Richard Dennis in a mechanical system with all your exact entry and exit and stop loss rules. But they still all made different amount of money and some even lost money. That's with a mechanical system!!!!!! See my point. Just cuz someone is to dumb to use something the right way doesn't make it not true.

Look at all my post about trades. There all the exact every time. Entries.: Price a. formed double failure b. price was at +2 day extreme, c. price came back to mighty zone/zline on HTF (DWM), d. breakout/breakin. Exits: a. lowest low, b. profit taking momo, c. crash zone, d. zline. Simple.

No I wont give you exact entries. You have contributed nothing positive to this thread and have been nothing but disrespectful.

Let me be completely blunt, honest and what might seem cocky. I could care less what you or everyone else on this site thinks about me. All I care about is making money when I trade. I dont care if you or anyone else can test, verify or repeat anything. All I care about is the lambo I just took for a spin or my ferrari that is in the shop having the motor rebuilt and twin turboed to make 1,500 hp. Want to know what my biggest worry is. Its what the hell do I do when Iam trading $10,000-$100,000 a pip next year. Do people even trade that size with retail brokers? Do I have to worry about slippage and not getting my fills? You think MO is cocky cause of his screen name or because of what he posts about. But I'm the Frankenstein monster when he was the rum drinking, adding zero's, my ideas are like an alien spaceship. Sometimes I worry that MO/other's might feel like I talk about his idea's almost as a get rich quick scheme. But with what I have learned from him and my rare ability to take risk (I think that's how pro put it) massive gains are so easy. I laugh when I get spam about making 100% or a 1000% in a year with some mystery trading idea. Adding a zero to an account in a month requires very little effort.

I think most members who have read my posts can tell I am about taking everything to extremes whether its trading, lifting or cars. I don't care or worry about what might happen. Think I let a detached calf muscle stop me lifting. Hell no now I just work on getting my bench press up to 500 pounds. Blew a head gasket from to much nitrous, screw it tear it down and throw some turbo's on. Think I worry about taking a loss or even blowing out my high leverage high risk account when I risk 10% with a 10 pip sl and aim for at least 100 pips. Whatever. Start another account from all the profits I have made in prior weeks when I have doubled or tripled it. (please for the love of God no one attempt to be like me or even think what I do is smart. Also don't pm me asking about that account or that type of trade).

I don't want kreslik to become like FF or other forums so I don't post a lot. I offer no orginal idea's or anything. I only started posting simply to show that what MO talks about is very possible and in hopes of others to post and for MO to present new idea's for me to learn. Yes cuz I'm greedy.

Trading is about taking peoples money. So the less you understand what MO has shared the better. I only post in hopes of improving my trading, not anyone elses. There are about a dozen or so vets on this board that I respect and would share what I know or try to help improve their trading. They all know more then me and could trade circles around me. I always freely admit in about every other post that I do not consider myself to be a good trader and that people really shouldn't listen to what I say.

Maybe TRO can give some stats. Kreslik is a small forum in my opinon with not many active posters. But in my time here almost every member that has made hundred of posts, marked up hundred of charts and put what was on MO's charts on to theirs has become successful enough to trade full time. From dragon, es pip,Ja, captain p., aliasmith, bredin, breathan, vane, doji and myself (I'm sure there are more sorry if I forgot you). Some were already profitable but with MO their trading improved even more. Pretty much the only ones who didn't achieve success just didn't listen or gave up, which doesn't reflect on MO. Please for the love of God do not mention pro. Yes his trading sucks horrible and I sometimes want to rip his head off
but I know he could be successful if he would just change his attitude and stop worrying thar he only won pennies today.

Ok so I have beentyping for about 2 hours now so I have wasted way to much time on this post. But it was to reply to you and also for anyone else lurking in the shadows.. Yes MO and TRO can talk in riddles and be cryptic and I myself have cussed them out in my head. But you need to understand what they are offering. Its knowledge to make you a trader. Honestly if I was them I would have told everyone to piss off by now. They are very patient and deal with idiot newbies asking stupid questions all the time (go look at some of my first posts, haha). No you don't need what they offer to trade. But just remember their idea's made a Frankenstein of a trader and I will take your measly 2% that you make a day and that lonely zero you added to your account all year, haha.

O yea P.S. even tho MO might stab me with a rusty butter knife for saying this, his idea's are very easy to make into set ups. My sl are always 10, 15, 20 depending on pair and movement. Entries are made after prices moves 1 pip in my direction and tp are when prices makes it to where I thought it would go, probably your stop loss :mrgreen:


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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby v8power » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:01 pm

Thanks aliassmith. Your one of the members I have always respected. I thought you were going to say, you tried to like my post but I'm and idiot or something. I went back and forth and whether I should have even posted it. I am very intense and saracastic in real life, so its hard to convey that online and I normally just piss people off. Hell I piss people off in person to all the time, haha. I just have a cocky sh*t talking personality.

I just read your old thread from 2010 the other week, pick out some good gems from it. Me and Ja are starting a new thread. You should post what your currently up to from time to time. No exact entries needed, I completely agree with you about liquidity. But even just general idea's are appreciated

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby prochargedmopar » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:22 pm

v8power wrote:
Let me be completely blunt, honest and what might seem cocky. I could care less what you or everyone else on this site thinks about me. All I care about is making money when I trade. I dont care if you or anyone else can test, verify or repeat anything. All I care about is the lambo I just took for a spin or my ferrari that is in the shop having the motor rebuilt and twin turboed to make 1,500 hp. Want to know what my biggest worry is. Its what the hell do I do when Iam trading $10,000-$100,000 a pip next year. Do people even trade that size with retail brokers? Do I have to worry about slippage and not getting my fills? You think MO is cocky cause of his screen name or because of what he posts about. But I'm the Frankenstein monster when he was the rum drinking, adding zero's, my ideas are like an alien spaceship. Sometimes I worry that MO/other's might feel like I talk about his idea's almost as a get rich quick scheme. But with what I have learned from him and my rare ability to take risk (I think that's how pro put it) massive gains are so easy. I laugh when I get spam about making 100% or a 1000% in a year with some mystery trading idea. Adding a zero to an account in a month requires very little effort.


Trading is about taking peoples money. So the less you understand what MO has shared the better. I only post in hopes of improving my trading, not anyone elses. There are about a dozen or so vets on this board that I respect and would share what I know or try to help improve their trading. They all know more then me and could trade circles around me. I always freely admit in about every other post that I do not consider myself to be a good trader and that people really shouldn't listen to what I say.


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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Braathen » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:23 am

Thanks MO! My cone game is getting stronger! 8)

I thought i would share my 29pip box chart that i have marked up (last weeks open is the origin).
P&F really helps me stay longer in trades and trail my position with greater confidence and agression.
It just really fits my brain i guess.
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Now.. i really enjoy spending alot of time infront of my charts and ive been doing a H/L+close 16pip box plotting on a 15m.. hehe.
I know MO will say its to sensitive and you might aswell just be looking at the 15m but i dont know what it is about P&F,
it just soothes my brain and you gotta admit... it can be a thing of beauty even at 15m plotting.
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Going down to a smaller TF to see the obvious :D
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Braathen » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:34 am

On my U/CAD the median says 0.0325.. so on GJ it says 5.97 witch is a range of 597.
Im guessing UCAD is 325 range and the diffrence is the decimal in the pairs?
Like UCAD is 1.2854 and GJ is 149.47
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby salezyakuku » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:01 am

Braathen wrote:On my U/CAD the median says 0.0325.. so on GJ it says 5.97 witch is a range of 597.
Im guessing UCAD is 325 range and the diffrence is the decimal in the pairs?
Like UCAD is 1.2854 and GJ is 149.47


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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Braathen » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:07 am

salezyakuku wrote:
Braathen wrote:On my U/CAD the median says 0.0325.. so on GJ it says 5.97 witch is a range of 597.
Im guessing UCAD is 325 range and the diffrence is the decimal in the pairs?
Like UCAD is 1.2854 and GJ is 149.47


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THANK YOU! :D awsome thanks so much again for the quick responce :shock:
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:29 pm

Braathen wrote:Thanks MO! My cone game is getting stronger! 8)

I thought i would share my 29pip box chart that i have marked up (last weeks open is the origin).
P&F really helps me stay longer in trades and trail my position with greater confidence and agression.
It just really fits my brain i guess.

Now.. i really enjoy spending alot of time infront of my charts and ive been doing a H/L+close 16pip box plotting on a 15m.. hehe.
I know MO will say it's too sensitive and you might as well just be looking at the 15m but i dont know what it is about P&F,
it just soothes my brain and you gotta admit... it can be a thing of beauty even at 15m plotting.

Going down to a smaller TF to see the obvious :D


Leafing through the charts in Ted Warren's book, HOW TO MAKE THE STOCK MARKET MAKE MONEY FOR YOU, I noticed that all of the charts are simply high/low bars inside of a grid.
While I was listening to a man on YT, about the differences between the different styles of charting, he made an interesting comment; he said that the difference between a candle chart and a bar chart is that of emphasis, a candle focuses your attn. to the change within a bar where as the bar has you focus on the change between bars.

He is probably right, I don't really give a dmn about small chart closes as I am more focused on the price overlap and pattern breakouts.

Did that 15 minute candle close under a line? I don't really care...I might care if I already want to go short, based on a larger chart, and I defined my trigger as the next close under something, but in and of itself it doesn't mean a whole lot.

The closes matter more on a larger chart where it represents a full swing & gives you a better summary of the small chart price action.

I have decided to make the switch to HL bar charts for small periods and HLC bar charts for multi-hour periods.
I still look at P&F charts but I find myself interpreting them the same way I do every chart (overlap vs breakout) instead of just trading breakouts.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Sacrophage » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:09 pm

Alarm woke me overnight and got into EA short @ 1.5285. Want to add now, but where... Red line may be current cone forming, but would like a deeper retrace up to add more. Thoughts?
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