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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:20 am

MightyOne wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
MightyOne wrote:Here is a chart that TRO posted.

There are "breakouts" and there are "patterns".
Do you get it? Is it what you SEE?

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I see the 123's, (hooks)
I see the breakout,
I see them on bigger timeframe charts,
I see horizontal lines to define/limit risk.
So what's next?


A 1-2-3 is not a "hook", hooks come after the 1-2-3 breakout.

There is a difference between seeing and perceiving.


Cannot have a 123 until AFTER a breakout.
Before that it is simply a RH or RRH.

So, a 123 IS a hook.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:39 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
Cannot have a 123 until AFTER a breakout.
Before that it is simply a RH or RRH.

So, a 123 IS a hook.

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You are confused, please re-read his books :lol:

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:13 am

MightyOne wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
Cannot have a 123 until AFTER a breakout.
Before that it is simply a RH or RRH.

So, a 123 IS a hook.

:-)


You are confused, please re-read his books :lol:


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Rarely anything else.
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby thepark » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:59 am

MightyOne wrote:I have been trying to find a simpler way to explain everything for the Ideas 2 thread.

Taking the guesswork out of Space was the first step, using 1-2-3s to explain angles is probably the second.

How do you trade it? With a horizontal line AND a small chart, not a horizontal line ON a small chart; the price is the same, the foundation is different.

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So is the 1-2-3 used here like a BDP, WDL where 2 is the BDP and 3 is the rejection?
which book should i read on this?
doyou have a preference of what pairs to trade? thanks

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:53 am

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So is the 1-2-3 used here like a BDP, WDL where 2 is the BDP and 3 is the rejection?
which book should i read on this?
do you have a preference of what pairs to trade? thanks


There is no book, we write our own books :lol:

There is no need to fill your head with unnecessary information, just try to tell the difference between a breakout and a pattern.
All angles are 15 degrees & all trades are away from a single price.

If I were to play favorites I'd say that the USDCAD is near and dear to me.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby thepark » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:52 am

MightyOne wrote:
thepark wrote:
So is the 1-2-3 used here like a BDP, WDL where 2 is the BDP and 3 is the rejection?
which book should i read on this?
do you have a preference of what pairs to trade? thanks


There is no book, we write our own books :lol:

There is no need to fill your head with unnecessary information, just try to tell the difference between a breakout and a pattern.
All angles are 15 degrees & all trades are away from a single price.

If I were to play favorites I'd say that the USDCAD is near and dear to me.

USDJPYecnH1.png


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What is the difference between a "breakout" and a "pattern"?
In you USDJPY pic, I see prices closing lower and then coming back up to wick upward on the third curly bracket. My entry would have been to wait for a new close under the (1) then short. Same idea with your XAUUSD trade.

Your ideas seem to be able to identify entries sooner, while my method enters after it has moved and confirmation
The curly bracket represents breakouts?
What are 1-2-3?
How do you know how to draw those 15 degree lines like that? I can see a million ways of drawing those lines that are different.

I guess I just need to see these ideas at a more basic level.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:18 pm

thepark wrote:
What is the difference between a "breakout" and a "pattern"?
In you USDJPY pic, I see prices closing lower and then coming back up to wick upward on the third curly bracket. My entry would have been to wait for a new close under the (1) then short. Same idea with your XAUUSD trade.

Your ideas seem to be able to identify entries sooner, while my method enters after it has moved and confirmation
The curly bracket represents breakouts?
What are 1-2-3?
How do you know how to draw those 15 degree lines like that? I can see a million ways of drawing those lines that are different.

I guess I just need to see these ideas at a more basic level.



You know what a pattern is, don't play with me: :lol:
1-2-3s, head & shoulders, channels, triangles, ...

A breakout is simply a move that "breaks out" from a pattern.

All patterns are related, if you learn about one then you will have insight into another.
Most people have difficulty understanding cones & channels so I use 1-2-3s to describe them.

I have two options:
a) I spend hundreds of posts talking about the nuances of trading patterns.
b) I make it so simple that even a caveman can do it.

If it looks strange it is because it is strange.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:04 am

USDCHF kinda looks like AAPL upside down...

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:22 am

We have seen it all before...

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

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