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Postby MightyOne » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:14 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:
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TheRumpledOne wrote:Hey MO... I don't understand the difference between the 2 NZD charts. What am I missing?

They both are M5. Is one some type of HA? The black/purple has shorter tails on the bottom than the orange/white chart.


Well sir, on the right we have your trusty candlestick chart with 'perfect opens' (open = prev. close).

On the left we have what seems to be a chart that is impossible to describe :lol:

Both the black and orange xCC close at the (midpoint+close)/2 of the candlestick chart and work together to form a line chart; that is to say that when both xCC are on one chart they accurately describe the underlying candlestick chart.

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If there were only one color then it would be a true CC, candles would be skipped, and it would be a higher chart period.

The chart reduces the visible volatility in two ways:
1) by shifting the open and close to an average, xCC that try to reverse or saw about are dramatically reduced in size; weakening the appearance of weak moves accentuates the strong moves.

2) the 'line chart' is then divided into two colors to give the illusion of a higher chart period & artificial opens are given to turn the lines into something that we can read and understand; candles!
Since individually the CC look like a higher period it tricks your eyes into not seeing so many zigzags.

For more information please see the mq4 file :lol:


How much "higher" of a timeframe is our brain seeing?
Why not just look at a higher timeframe chart?


A xCC will look like the period of a single CC; 2xCC = double the period.

A 2xCC is sort of like having an M15 & M30 on the same chart; orange is 15 minutes & black is 30 minutes.
The 15 minute candle closes with orange, then the 30 minute closes with black, the 15 with orange, and so on.
From black to black or orange to orange xCC you see groups of 30 minutes but together, as they alternate, they retain the movement of the 15 minute chart.
That said, you cannot simply put an M15 and M30 chart side by side to get the same effect because a xCC is so much more than that simple explanation.

It is not trying to double the period, it is only better expressing the underlying chart.

Candlesticks are to bar charts as xCC is to candlesticks.

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Postby prochargedmopar » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:42 am

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2+ day extreme

Postby kate682 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:20 am

Good morning MO,

When you say a '2+ day extreme' do you mean two days of + average daily range, or two days where the CC medium closed half way, as per the BOx on the chart?

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Postby kate682 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:18 pm

Hi MO

Still studying the CC Candles, I understand fully where they close now, but can't see the basis of where they open as they do.

They are certainly more harmonious than traditional candles. Really like them, just want to thoroughly understand them in order to trust what i see they're telling me.

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Postby MightyOne » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:06 pm

kate682 wrote:Hi MO

Still studying the CC Candles, I understand fully where they close now, but can't see the basis of where they open as they do.

They are certainly more harmonious than traditional candles. Really like them, just want to thoroughly understand them in order to trust what i see they're telling me.

Thank you.
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They open at the (median+close)/2 of the xCC; it is similar to having hourly opens on a 30 minute chart.

2+ day extremes look like this:

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you are simply looking for an extreme that is older than 2 days.

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Re: 2+ day extreme

Postby MightyOne » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:27 pm

kate682 wrote:Good morning MO,

When you say a '2+ day extreme' do you mean two days of + average daily range, or two days where the CC medium closed half way, as per the BOx on the chart?

Regards Kate


BOx is not the same thing as a box (space).

The BOx is a position/stop (x) at a breakout (BO), a breakout position (BOx)

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Postby Captain Pugwash » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:50 pm

Ahoy MO

I was looking at your "something" line,

And I just wanted to check I was in the right ball park with my understanding

this chart certainly gives you a better chance to spot this pa - if i understand you correctly

the BOx is obviously a tad lower

the fib is off another of these H4 cc candles that broke a pointy place - please ignore that

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Postby bredin » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:47 pm

MO, Ive been doing a few markups to get my brain around a few things

This looks ok to me, but since its a bit different to how i usually go about things (its much more aggressive) I figured I might actually ask.

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Postby MightyOne » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:28 am

Captain Pugwash: 'price clamshell', very clever :lol:


There are two places where using a BOx is appropriate:

1) just lower than the 2+ day extreme on a short term chart (when you missed your opportunity to short from the extreme)

2) after a long term breakout

In both cases you cannot reach the extreme with the size space that you wish to use and are using the BOx as a last ditch attempt to get in.

Do not keep trailing the BOx lower :lol:

Long term examples:

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Postby Captain Pugwash » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:29 am

Thanks MO :)

And your answer to that bredin character has answered another of my questions that I now don't have to ask :)

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