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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby aliassmith » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:38 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:Here are a few examples on AJ m15.
Repeatable and simplified.

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I know it now........

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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby v8power » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:43 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:
v8power wrote:This is how all my trading ideas start. Ideas broken down into rough ideas and me just throwing it on charts until something clicks. The "price speed increases by 2 decreases by half" has always stuck with me So while this chart really shows nothing, it is the basic idea of what I have done for everything in the past.gbpjpy-d1-oanda-division1.png



Steve W. of nobrainertrades.com taught this as "fanning trendlines" when he was @ chris lori's workshop.

After the 3rd line price was ob/os.

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Haha I wish I could post the pics I took yesterday from my phone, but I just switched services. But its from a book published in 1962, I forget the name tho. Calls this the "fan".

Also has a section about the 50% rule. Its the samething you/we all call the mightyzone. There are no new idea's in trading. Eveything is just a remixed, remastered idea with are flavor of hot sauce added to it, that's all. That's why I don't consider my skill to be anything special as its all ideas that have been around for decades and been in hands of much smarter men then me.

But that chart was more about how price moves at a certain speed. I think that idea is pretty cool and could tell us a lot.

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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby jrtrading » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:01 am

In cases where one only has an approximate idea of where price may turn at a zero line
I have found it helpful to draw a conservative line and let price pass first beyond it,
and then pass back the other way before initiating a trade.
That typically creates "something" to trade off of, as MightyOne says ("close above something small").

Otherwise it is very easy for me to try and pick tops and bottoms.

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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:14 am

v8power wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
v8power wrote:Everything is ok to post in here, the more the better. Aqua lines show tp area's and magenta show sell area's. Look how perfectly they hit price and line up. Weekly chart just shows the weekly mz trade.gbpnzdpro-mn1-tradeking-forex-llc.png



Additional levels.

I've been around ZL's from the start and I could never put my finger on what made one work and another fail ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.
Using the last UP/DOWN bar of a move to play off has really zeroed in on something that looks special from a historical perspective.

Gotta give the guy his props. (ICT)
Everybody for years would post ZL's but no one could define EXACTLY what they were looking for.
He has. (ICT)

Ouch. I hate to admit it because he is such a prick.
What's right, is right.

AccordingToICT.png


Defining zlines is super easy and the basis of my trading. A zline just show a place where price did something(broke out/beginning of momo) and certain lines are weaker or stronger then others. Strong ones hold and you trade away from. This is why when member post and say hey this bar is 2x the last bar why didn't this trade work. Its because that bar wasn't really momo or was not the zline that was supposed to hold. Zlines can mark a bunch of things.

We as a forum took something very simple and complicated the hell out of.

Also I never completely mark everything I see on a chart. It would clutter it up to long and take to long to make. I already spend 15m- an hour when I mark up charts to post.


Ha, only takes me a min. with skitch on my ph
But then again, I'm not profiting from what I mark.
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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:27 am

v8power wrote:[

Haha I wish I could post the pics I took yesterday from my phone, but I just switched services. But its from a book published in 1962, I forget the name tho. Calls this the "fan".

Also has a section about the 50% rule. Its the same thing you/we all call the mightyzone. There are no new idea's in trading. Eveything is just a remixed, remastered idea with are flavor of hot sauce added to it, that's all. That's why I don't consider my skill to be anything special as its all ideas that have been around for decades and been in hands of much smarter men then me.

But that chart was more about how price moves at a certain speed. I think that idea is pretty cool and could tell us a lot.


Yup,
Ideas come from those that present them to us.
Afford us to see it.

I mean really? Price is nothing but points.
I know of a blind guy that is an excellent trader.
Old guys use to trade with clacker boards, no charts required.

ZL is stuck in my brain, not order block or breaker or whatever it's called.

ICT is a little to much of a conspiracy theorist for me.
Hey, I can't knock it as it allows him to be pretty good @market analysis.

Not sure how much he makes but he keeps calling all traders to go head to head, mono y mono in any type of trading contest you think you can beat him at.
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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby v8power » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:30 am

prochargedmopar wrote:Here are a few examples on AJ m15.
Repeatable and simplified.

I am gonna succeed at trading!!

I know it now........

ZL'sM15AJ.png


This is how I see price on all charts and all timeframes and probably will be the most indepth I get into it.
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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:31 am

"I am the best trader on planet earth."
ICT

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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby v8power » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:36 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
v8power wrote:[

Haha I wish I could post the pics I took yesterday from my phone, but I just switched services. But its from a book published in 1962, I forget the name tho. Calls this the "fan".

Also has a section about the 50% rule. Its the same thing you/we all call the mightyzone. There are no new idea's in trading. Eveything is just a remixed, remastered idea with are flavor of hot sauce added to it, that's all. That's why I don't consider my skill to be anything special as its all ideas that have been around for decades and been in hands of much smarter men then me.

But that chart was more about how price moves at a certain speed. I think that idea is pretty cool and could tell us a lot.


Yup,
Ideas come from those that present them to us.
Afford us to see it.

I mean really? Price is nothing but points.
I know of a blind guy that is an excellent trader.
Old guys use to trade with clacker boards, no charts required.

ZL is stuck in my brain, not order block or breaker or whatever it's called.

ICT is a little to much of a conspiracy theorist for me.
Hey, I can't knock it as it allows him to be pretty good @market analysis.

Not sure how much he makes but he keeps calling all traders to go head to head, mono y mono in any type of trading contest you think you can beat him at.


Haha. Who is this guy. isn't he the same guy that either almost or does wipe his account every week? Whats his website?

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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:51 am

v8power wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
v8power wrote:[

Haha I wish I could post the pics I took yesterday from my phone, but I just switched services. But its from a book published in 1962, I forget the name tho. Calls this the "fan".

Also has a section about the 50% rule. Its the same thing you/we all call the mightyzone. There are no new idea's in trading. Eveything is just a remixed, remastered idea with are flavor of hot sauce added to it, that's all. That's why I don't consider my skill to be anything special as its all ideas that have been around for decades and been in hands of much smarter men then me.

But that chart was more about how price moves at a certain speed. I think that idea is pretty cool and could tell us a lot.


Yup,
Ideas come from those that present them to us.
Afford us to see it.

I mean really? Price is nothing but points.
I know of a blind guy that is an excellent trader.
Old guys use to trade with clacker boards, no charts required.

ZL is stuck in my brain, not order block or breaker or whatever it's called.

ICT is a little to much of a conspiracy theorist for me.
Hey, I can't knock it as it allows him to be pretty good @market analysis.

Not sure how much he makes but he keeps calling all traders to go head to head, mono y mono in any type of trading contest you think you can beat him at.


Haha. Who is this guy. isn't he the same guy that either almost or does wipe his account every week? Whats his website?


Oh shiit,
Don't go there.

www.theinnercircletrader.com

Must hit subscribe button on YouTube to watch his vids.
Today he went on an hour long rant against 3 guys selling "his" stuff without giving him credit.

Check out @ICT_MHuddleston's Tweet: https://twitter.com/ICT_MHuddleston/sta ... 66688?s=09
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Re: The idea's we trade by, so we never lose again. p2. The students become the masters

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:57 am

He constantly says this in his vids and on twitter.

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