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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby aliassmith » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:15 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:Ok.
But $47k,
New Dodge Challenger

Even adding to a loss CAN work if lot size is kept proportional.
The last 5 trades have netted much more than my current loser.

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Haha I didn't really look at your unit size. You must of
done some real inner bone head $hit to lose 50%.
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:46 pm

aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:Yes, it is problem solved.
If I NEVER added to a loser since 2008 Then making my first million would be a mute point.
Which trading method I used would be a mute point.
Using space would be a mute point.
All you would see here on this thread was $5k to $500k REPEATEDLY.



Say helllooooo,
to my random 00.

HelloTo00.png


Ok PRO make $25,000 with your $250 using that logic
and I'll admit I am wrong. I'm willing to learn a new perspective.


Do you have any idea how hard it is to add zeros without accumulation? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alias is right that low initial risk and small 20% targets is the surest path to success; I was heading down
that path myself as I realised that it was the loss of time, due to evaporated gains, that was slowing me
down. Maintaining your speed is more important than the size of the target.

I see people who barely know what they are doing make more than 20% (they accumulate!)
Blind luck? It doesn't matter how you get there!

All they have to do is revert to a small initial size, protecting what they have made, and target another 20%.

There are 52 weeks in a year and only 12 targets...
...there are 12 months in a year and only 12 targets

The smaller your initial risk the more likely it is that you will succeed:

If you make 20% and you revert to a risk space of 0.08% then it would take 250 trades to give it all back...
...1 of 250 trades must add 20% to your account.

More risk is more risk, more profit is more profit.

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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby aliassmith » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:05 pm

MightyOne wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:Yes, it is problem solved.
If I NEVER added to a loser since 2008 Then making my first million would be a mute point.
Which trading method I used would be a mute point.
Using space would be a mute point.
All you would see here on this thread was $5k to $500k REPEATEDLY.



Say helllooooo,
to my random 00.

HelloTo00.png


Ok PRO make $25,000 with your $250 using that logic
and I'll admit I am wrong. I'm willing to learn a new perspective.


Do you have any idea how hard it is to add zeros without accumulation? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alias is right that low initial risk and small 20% targets is the surest path to success; I was heading down
that path myself as I realised that it was the loss of time, due to evaporated gains, that was slowing me
down. Maintaining your speed is more important than the size of the target.

I see people who barely know what they are doing make more than 20% (they accumulate!)
Blind luck? It doesn't matter how you get there!

All they have to do is revert to a small initial size, protecting what they have made, and target another 20%.

There are 52 weeks in a year and only 12 targets...
...there are 12 months in a year and only 12 targets

The smaller your initial risk the more likely it is that you will succeed:

If you make 20% and you revert to a risk space of 0.08% then it would take 250 trades to give it all back...
...1 of 250 trades must add 20% to your account.

More risk is more risk, more profit is more profit.


Yes sir that was my conclusion. Bigger targets can cause a big
loss of time. Having targets in the 20% to 26% range
helps retain your effort. An initial risk of .5% to 1% was a good enough starting point also.

Small risk plus accumulation is key in my opinion. I'm sure
I'll discuss it more in my thread.

I believe at the new risk level it would take 20ish trades to
give it back.
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:44 pm

Almost got 17 macros.

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#1BODY in direction of profit #2INCREASE lot size Obsessively
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:52 am

Pretty cool to have my car on my debit card.

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Do you guys see my trading pattern?
#1BODY in direction of profit #2INCREASE lot size Obsessively
My Losses cause me Great Laughter!
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby TygerKrane » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:10 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:Pretty cool to have my car on my debit card.

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Do you guys see my trading pattern?

YES!

I see a lot of smoke getting blown, with the car going nowhere.
i.e.
I see a lot of money getting blown, with the account going nowhere.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry mate, had to do it, no hard feelings, it was a great setup 8)

**Krane catches Tyger** !>I'm here to chew bubble gum and make major pips...and I'm all out of bubble gum.<!

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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:58 pm

TygerKrane wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:Pretty cool to have my car on my debit card.

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Do you guys see my trading pattern?

YES!

I see a lot of smoke getting blown, with the car going nowhere.
i.e.
I see a lot of money getting blown, with the account going nowhere.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry mate, had to do it, no hard feelings, it was a great setup 8)


Yeah, that was a pretty good analogy. :)
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:08 pm

The market has patterns because of the people and humanly programmed computers that trade them.
This is what I see.

I "win" 7 to 12+ interactions in a row gaining 6-12 macro pips.
I continue to use the same lot size.
I will possibly double size once but then take much fewer pips.
As the "wins" rack up I am more inclined to REDUCE my trade size.
I finally have what is going to be OR is just a flat out loss.
I start the adding to loser process and downward spiral.
@ this point I increase lot size by 5 to 20x and take only a fraction of the normal pips profit.
I will also use the same OR larger 10 macro pips of space for a SL.


Run the #'s or just look @ my acct.
This pattern does NOT work.

Lets review:
10ish "wins" of 1 lot size.
1 loss of 1 lot size.
5 to 20x lot size LOSS with 2x SL against bodies. (the first loss was a body if I look @ history)

So, It takes 50 to 200 "wins" to be back where I started..........
Not good.


"wins" = what most would consider a winning trade BUT this is only suppose to be a single step toward an accumulation of lot size.
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My Losses cause me Great Laughter!
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby aliassmith » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:26 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:The market has patterns because of the people and humanly programmed computers that trade them.
This is what I see.

I "win" 7 to 12+ interactions in a row gaining 6-12 macro pips.
I continue to use the same lot size.
I will possibly double size once but then take much fewer pips.
As the "wins" rack up I am more inclined to REDUCE my trade size.
I finally have what is going to be OR is just a flat out loss.
I start the adding to loser process and downward spiral.
@ this point I increase lot size by 5 to 20x and take only a fraction of the normal pips profit.
I will also use the same OR larger 10 macro pips of space for a SL.


Run the #'s or just look @ my acct.
This pattern does NOT work.

Lets review:
10ish "wins" of 1 lot size.
1 loss of 1 lot size.
5 to 20x lot size LOSS with 2x SL against bodies. (the first loss was a body if I look @ history)

So, It takes 50 to 200 "wins" to be back where I started..........
Not good.


"wins" = what most would consider a winning trade BUT this is only suppose to be a single step toward accumulation.


OH that pattern. Ya I am aware of it. I bet MO $100, when you started the Macro Pips that you would
blow your account up. Pay up MO :twisted:. PRO you are really good at not being able to follow a simple
and realistic trading plan.

You are good at the first phase of accumulation, but you are at a point in this trading adventure where
you NEED TO and MUST start following the plan with a do or die attitude
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:43 pm

aliassmith wrote:OH that pattern. Ya I am aware of it. I bet MO $100, when you started the Macro Pips that you would
blow your account up.

You are good at the first phase of accumulation,


You see what I focus on, thanks for the compliment. hehee


Not so fast:

This account is NOT my macro pip acct. it is my AJ scalper account. (primary)
Here is the other acct. prochargedmt4, I sat tight while the markets went crazy. ;)

This is my LAST BEER IN THE FRIDGE acct now. :mrgreen:

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#1BODY in direction of profit #2INCREASE lot size Obsessively
My Losses cause me Great Laughter!
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