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Postby es/pip » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:45 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:
cfabian wrote:""#$%!"#$

Really not fair.... I was in this trade, with +12, aiming for the price it is targeting now, moving down in consistent steps. Then my boss told me to go to his office. Oohhh boy... when will this stupid things end up????

H1 formation was good as well, but that freaking long kick stopped me out with a loss. Can you see a better entry, or a sort of explanation as to why should I have waited? Or any anticipation it would go up there?

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I'm by no means kicking out long runs BUT,
Basic price analysis:

Higher low
candle close above previous, then momo up.
double bottom formation.

These do not mean price is turning forever but as es/pip says, look how far it has already dropped.

WHAT IS THE VOLUME IN THAT AREA TELLING YOU??

I feel the actual trade/entry was well above your stop if your looking for that large of a run.......

But dude, I'm not holding for more than 2-3 pips most times because I see these things on small time frames and exit before I go back to -1. LOL

Well, unless I get down 10, then I add. hehehehe


the reason that you cannot hold a trade is, you are doing the same stuff over and over again therefore resulting in the same result.

if you want to hold then you need to change what you are doing.

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again with the same result. when wanting to change something

looking at 1 min charts is what makes you get all mental and freak out about it.

but you know this and continue to do it.

i mean, you have been trading a lot better lately and making steady pips so i am not going to be the one that says stop doing that and do this. Whatever you are doing with what you are looking at seems to be working for you----maybe increase your time frames if you want to hold.

or how about not exiting a trade until it hits your target or has an increase in momo against you---and exiting if a 5 min bar closes against you---trying to get the best price-----

its amazing what happens when your losses are small and your winners are large------

i say you have been trading better lately and that is aside from what you did the other day( i have been wanting to use this somewhere so it is going to go here--lol)---- that gets one of these :D

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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:46 pm

es/pip wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:Analyzing G/U moves.
Looking at weekly chart.
Looking at vol. of previous weeks up bars. (low)
Looking at the momo down bar on higher volume.
Hmmm, look at the wick of current week's bar.
No wonder the big drop.
Very interesting.

Even the daily candle/volume patterns suggested a down move for thur.
Shooting star/inverted hammer on high volume, Where's the buyers? LOL

What's really interesting is the equal volume of thur. bar and fridays bar that was 1/3 the size.
Hmmmm, time for a little retrace??
Not yet. I'll wait on this currency to talk to me monday.
Back to scalping...LOL

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those are are all valid points

but this is the main reason

all the other stuff happened inside this monthly action which made it even better

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I hope you let some portion of your trade run to zero out those other bastards.......Or are you going to let the yearly traders have it???

Nice.

Climax high is beginning or end of trend......churn bars signify a fight.
Hmmm
We've got a couple down, climax up, churn bar, climax up, churn bar, climax down....To be continued...I bet now you wished you'd held.....I bet now I wish I'd got my nose out of my anus and looked to the heavens......
:twisted:

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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:54 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:
es/pip wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:Analyzing G/U moves.
Looking at weekly chart.
Looking at vol. of previous weeks up bars. (low)
Looking at the momo down bar on higher volume.
Hmmm, look at the wick of current week's bar.
No wonder the big drop.
Very interesting.

Even the daily candle/volume patterns suggested a down move for thur.
Shooting star/inverted hammer on high volume, Where's the buyers? LOL

What's really interesting is the equal volume of thur. bar and fridays bar that was 1/3 the size.
Hmmmm, time for a little retrace??
Not yet. I'll wait on this currency to talk to me monday.
Back to scalping...LOL

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those are are all valid points

but this is the main reason

all the other stuff happened inside this monthly action which made it even better

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I hope you let some portion of your trade run to zero out those other bastards.......Or are you going to let the yearly traders have it???

Nice.

Climax high is beginning or end of trend......churn bars signify a fight.
Hmmm
We've got a couple down, climax up, churn bar, climax up, churn bar, climax down....To be continued...I bet now you wished you'd held.....I bet now I wish I'd got my nose out of my anus and looked to the heavens......
:twisted:

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BTW,
Look back about a year or so...........

I bet those traders were hating life trading G/U.
Everybody would have to be trading an M1 chart and 5 pips runs would be a BIG day....LOL

Itty bitty tiddy candles....What tha???

We got it good right now with all the financial turmoil.
jeeesh.

edit:

Combine last year in to one candle.....MOMO (body in direction of profit)
Combine this year into one candle......RETRACE (wick in direction of loss)

That can't be possible CAN IT???????????
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:24 pm

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:16 pm

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

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Postby razorboy » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:25 pm

"its amazing what happens when your losses are small and your winners are large------"

And you learn how to accept break even on a trade when attempting to hold for those large winners...............that is what really helps tilts your over all payoff in your favor........accepting nothing but big wins and small losses...............this takes patience and knowing your edge....



es/pip wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
cfabian wrote:""#$%!"#$

Really not fair.... I was in this trade, with +12, aiming for the price it is targeting now, moving down in consistent steps. Then my boss told me to go to his office. Oohhh boy... when will this stupid things end up????

H1 formation was good as well, but that freaking long kick stopped me out with a loss. Can you see a better entry, or a sort of explanation as to why should I have waited? Or any anticipation it would go up there?

Image


Image


I'm by no means kicking out long runs BUT,
Basic price analysis:

Higher low
candle close above previous, then momo up.
double bottom formation.

These do not mean price is turning forever but as es/pip says, look how far it has already dropped.

WHAT IS THE VOLUME IN THAT AREA TELLING YOU??

I feel the actual trade/entry was well above your stop if your looking for that large of a run.......

But dude, I'm not holding for more than 2-3 pips most times because I see these things on small time frames and exit before I go back to -1. LOL

Well, unless I get down 10, then I add. hehehehe


the reason that you cannot hold a trade is, you are doing the same stuff over and over again therefore resulting in the same result.

if you want to hold then you need to change what you are doing.

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again with the same result. when wanting to change something

looking at 1 min charts is what makes you get all mental and freak out about it.

but you know this and continue to do it.

i mean, you have been trading a lot better lately and making steady pips so i am not going to be the one that says stop doing that and do this. Whatever you are doing with what you are looking at seems to be working for you----maybe increase your time frames if you want to hold.

or how about not exiting a trade until it hits your target or has an increase in momo against you---and exiting if a 5 min bar closes against you---trying to get the best price-----

its amazing what happens when your losses are small and your winners are large------

i say you have been trading better lately and that is aside from what you did the other day( i have been wanting to use this somewhere so it is going to go here--lol)---- that gets one of these :D

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Postby razorboy » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:27 pm

and understanding that you can be profitable winning just 10% of the time.


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Postby cfabian » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:52 am

I don't know how to read or interpret volume... can you give some glimpse?


prochargedmopar wrote:
cfabian wrote:""#$%!"#$

Really not fair.... I was in this trade, with +12, aiming for the price it is targeting now, moving down in consistent steps. Then my boss told me to go to his office. Oohhh boy... when will this stupid things end up????

H1 formation was good as well, but that freaking long kick stopped me out with a loss. Can you see a better entry, or a sort of explanation as to why should I have waited? Or any anticipation it would go up there?

Image


Image


I'm by no means kicking out long runs BUT,
Basic price analysis:

Higher low
candle close above previous, then momo up.
double bottom formation.

These do not mean price is turning forever but as es/pip says, look how far it has already dropped.

WHAT IS THE VOLUME IN THAT AREA TELLING YOU??

I feel the actual trade/entry was well above your stop if your looking for that large of a run.......

But dude, I'm not holding for more than 2-3 pips most times because I see these things on small time frames and exit before I go back to -1. LOL

Well, unless I get down 10, then I add. hehehehe
WILL GET MY MONEY BACK FROM THOSE BASTARDS, AND I MEAN IT !!!!!
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:44 pm

cfabian wrote:I don't know how to read or interpret volume... can you give some glimpse?


prochargedmopar wrote:
cfabian wrote:""#$%!"#$

Really not fair.... I was in this trade, with +12, aiming for the price it is targeting now, moving down in consistent steps. Then my boss told me to go to his office. Oohhh boy... when will this stupid things end up????

H1 formation was good as well, but that freaking long kick stopped me out with a loss. Can you see a better entry, or a sort of explanation as to why should I have waited? Or any anticipation it would go up there?

Image


Image


I'm by no means kicking out long runs BUT,
Basic price analysis:

Higher low
candle close above previous, then momo up.
double bottom formation.

These do not mean price is turning forever but as es/pip says, look how far it has already dropped.

WHAT IS THE VOLUME IN THAT AREA TELLING YOU??

I feel the actual trade/entry was well above your stop if your looking for that large of a run.......

But dude, I'm not holding for more than 2-3 pips most times because I see these things on small time frames and exit before I go back to -1. LOL

Well, unless I get down 10, then I add. hehehehe


Just as any other "method" it takes many many hrs./month's/ ect to know all the nuances of trading with it.
I've just started using it a couple month's ago.

Here is a thread with links to most info you may need.
TRO posted this with his volume indicators. I didn't look at it at first but a month or so later came back to it and found it interesting.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=157629

Here is a small article of how I am combining Candles and Volume,
http://sfomag.com/article.aspx?ID=1290
but I also incorporate Z-Lines, and Sup/Res, and chart patterns, and speed/time variable, and and and.
I need to find MY exit strategy and all will be good.
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Postby cfabian » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:32 pm

Thanks PRO, will give it a read...


prochargedmopar wrote:
cfabian wrote:I don't know how to read or interpret volume... can you give some glimpse?


prochargedmopar wrote:
cfabian wrote:""#$%!"#$

Really not fair.... I was in this trade, with +12, aiming for the price it is targeting now, moving down in consistent steps. Then my boss told me to go to his office. Oohhh boy... when will this stupid things end up????

H1 formation was good as well, but that freaking long kick stopped me out with a loss. Can you see a better entry, or a sort of explanation as to why should I have waited? Or any anticipation it would go up there?

Image


Image


I'm by no means kicking out long runs BUT,
Basic price analysis:

Higher low
candle close above previous, then momo up.
double bottom formation.

These do not mean price is turning forever but as es/pip says, look how far it has already dropped.

WHAT IS THE VOLUME IN THAT AREA TELLING YOU??

I feel the actual trade/entry was well above your stop if your looking for that large of a run.......

But dude, I'm not holding for more than 2-3 pips most times because I see these things on small time frames and exit before I go back to -1. LOL

Well, unless I get down 10, then I add. hehehehe


Just as any other "method" it takes many many hrs./month's/ ect to know all the nuances of trading with it.
I've just started using it a couple month's ago.

Here is a thread with links to most info you may need.
TRO posted this with his volume indicators. I didn't look at it at first but a month or so later came back to it and found it interesting.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=157629

Here is a small article of how I am combining Candles and Volume,
http://sfomag.com/article.aspx?ID=1290
but I also incorporate Z-Lines, and Sup/Res, and chart patterns, and speed/time variable, and and and.
I need to find MY exit strategy and all will be good.
WILL GET MY MONEY BACK FROM THOSE BASTARDS, AND I MEAN IT !!!!!

"WAIT FOR PRICE, WAIT FOR PRICE, WAIT FOR PRICE"

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