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Postby es/pip » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:08 pm

tradepar wrote:es/pip

"if the PA and momo do not show that the magneta line is going to hold the price and we have momo up thru that area"

What does PA stand for? - I guess Price Analysis. MOMO I can see on the chart , what do you do or think or look for PA?

Thanks


PA= price action


just looking at the bars and how they form
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Postby brettnchrism » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:40 pm

zap congradulations enjoy your time with family. Pro sent me some of your charts thanks and look forward to your return.

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Postby MightyOne » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:47 pm

marypipins wrote:Ut oh...I maybe way in over my head here...lol but...

Cannot truth be absolute and relative? Yes, I see a cooked turkey on my table, that is an undeniable truth. Did my spouse cook it? maybe..maybe not..He has a hard time boiling water..lol so now we are drifting off into presumption..speculation and just guessing.

Do you not preach that many times what we are seeing may seem like the truth but is merely a lie? Trading is not absolute. isn't trading seeking the truth based on what maybe relatively true? What is the truth when trading?

To answer that, your not allowed to weave a tapistry of intellectual mumbo jumbo that leaves me here scratching my head :D and you are making my brain hurt..lol
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Whether your spouse cooked it or not is irrelevant...
I am only talking about complexity, a chicken that is born in nature VS a cooked chicken over lettuce with mango sauce.

The truth is what it is and is absolute.
The truth can only be relative through deviations from what is absolute (or there is no truth at all :roll:)

Instead of calling the deviations within us our own personal truth we need to become more like the template that was sent to us if truth matters to us at all.

In trading, the ability to recognize the flaws in others is directly related your ability to recognize the flaws within your self.
If you spend your life covering up your flaws then how will you have such skill in trading?

In poker, the ability to read (and exploit) others is related to your ability to understand their thoughts, feelings, and motives.
If you spend your time yelling (not saying that you do ;)) at your spouse/parents instead of attempting to effectively communicate then how will you gain the skills to understand others?

Even if you can grasp what their weaknesses are your ability to exploit depends on the flawlessness of your execution...flawlessness (absolute).

Trading is easy because traders are people, people are flawed, and flaws are exploitable.

In my opinion, the greatest method by which you can exploit the other traders is by letting their overwhelming need to trade tip their hand.

You look over an you see that your opponent has a Full House.
You watch as he sets 5% of his stack and declares that he wishes to buy at 1.4020 and sell at 1.4005.
Some idiot across the table shouts that he will call the bet at 1.4020 and you respond by raising from 1.4005.
The other players decide that they wish to get in on the action and call your bet at 1.4005 and the first player folds.

5% of the first players stack is then given to the idiot and the Full House is yours to play instead of going into the muck (I think i just created a new form of poker...lol).

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Postby MightyOne » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:39 pm

dragon33 wrote:Hey Mighty when do we start continuing with the diamant of perception? or is everything allready here?


There will forever be more to learn Dragon33 :lol:

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Postby MightyOne » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:46 pm

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Postby es/pip » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:06 pm

MightyOne wrote:
marypipins wrote:Ut oh...I maybe way in over my head here...lol but...

Cannot truth be absolute and relative? Yes, I see a cooked turkey on my table, that is an undeniable truth. Did my spouse cook it? maybe..maybe not..He has a hard time boiling water..lol so now we are drifting off into presumption..speculation and just guessing.

Do you not preach that many times what we are seeing may seem like the truth but is merely a lie? Trading is not absolute. isn't trading seeking the truth based on what maybe relatively true? What is the truth when trading?

To answer that, your not allowed to weave a tapistry of intellectual mumbo jumbo that leaves me here scratching my head :D and you are making my brain hurt..lol
lisa


Whether your spouse cooked it or not is irrelevant...
I am only talking about complexity, a chicken that is born in nature VS a cooked chicken over lettuce with mango sauce.

The truth is what it is and is absolute.
The truth can only be relative through deviations from what is absolute (or there is no truth at all :roll:)

Instead of calling the deviations within us our own personal truth we need to become more like the template that was sent to us if truth matters to us at all.

In trading, the ability to recognize the flaws in others is directly related your ability to recognize the flaws within your self.
If you spend your life covering up your flaws then how will you have such skill in trading?

In poker, the ability to read (and exploit) others is related to your ability to understand their thoughts, feelings, and motives.
If you spend your time yelling (not saying that you do ;)) at your spouse/parents instead of attempting to effectively communicate then how will you gain the skills to understand others?

Even if you can grasp what their weaknesses are your ability to exploit depends on the flawlessness of your execution...flawlessness (absolute).

Trading is easy because traders are people, people are flawed, and flaws are exploitable.

In my opinion, the greatest method by which you can exploit the other traders is by letting their overwhelming need to trade tip their hand.

You look over an you see that your opponent has a Full House.
You watch as he sets 5% of his stack and declares that he wishes to buy at 1.4020 and sell at 1.4005.
Some idiot across the table shouts that he will call the bet at 1.4020 and you respond by raising from 1.4005.
The other players decide that they wish to get in on the action and call your bet at 1.4005 and the first player folds.

5% of the first players stack is then given to the idiot and the Full House is yours to play instead of going into the muck (I think i just created a new form of poker...lol).


great post
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Postby es/pip » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:18 pm

had around 8 trades from last night till us afternoon session

spanked them pretty hard today

i will post the best and worst one :roll:


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Postby dragon33 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:24 pm

MightyOne wrote:
dragon33 wrote:Hey Mighty when do we start continuing with the diamant of perception? or is everything allready here?


There will forever be more to learn Dragon33 :lol:

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It is still interesting but it should be nice when we get a starting point.
I allready tried to combine channel drawing with the zerosones but for now i don't see it. Too much questions as why do you draw the 35* lines at specified points on your picture?

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Postby marypipins » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:06 am

MO..

OK..it looks like you and I are going to trade barbs here a bit.. you missed my point about what you said about the turkey..my point was perception.. how we see things..for example...
I came here about a year ago when I first ran into your posts..
My perception was " Mighty One" whats this guy smoking? i looked at your name and it blinded me to whatever good I could gleam from you. i figured this guy is out there in la la land.. Arrogant ..full of himself..Now as I read and try to understand you my perception is different. I never really looked at your Avatar till recently..hmmm.. looks like a spiritual meaning..maybe.. then your name.. well.. maybe your not the mighty one but your giving credit to the One who is. I see you trying to give help and advise to others..So if this be true..my perception and reality of who you are has changed.
your point is well taken..we need to know ourselves to really know others..
So.. I'm saying i feel bad because I pre-judged you.. I'm going to now open my ears and listen..
Lisa

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Postby prochargedmopar » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:08 am

Anybody else take the m5 momo trade long??

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