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Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:46 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:MightyOne:

I can only program something if I understand it.

Would this be a lights multimeter or a digital multimeter?


Lights are just fine...

You only need to know if price is above or below the newest formed line in the longer term technical picture that meets your objectives.

After that it is DFSR in the same direction on a smaller time frame chart.

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Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:04 am

White boxes are 5 pips from the low and pink lines show where the Dynamic trend changed to bullish.

The first box was a bonafide DFSR trade.

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The 30m Dynamic Trend was actually bullish from 1.4800:

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Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:32 am

es/pip wrote:Ok now that I am somewhat on the same page as you

When does the count (0,00) start over/how long is the measurement good for----only the current bar?


If bars 0 and 00 do not effect the price action do you restart the count as the new bars form?

If the measurement of 0,00 does effect the price action do you still walk the count forward as new bars form?

Not sure I expressed that the way I wanted to ----if not clear, I will do it on charts


For TRO's mental health let us use 0 as the current bar, 1 as the prev. bar (0), & 2 as the bar before that (00).

The first thing before any other consideration is the breakout; the
breakout starts it all.

The range of 1 & 2 from the low (in the case of a high BO) pushes the line up if:

1. they are higher than the breakout line.
2. the price on the current bar touches that price.

The lines remain until they are either moved higher or the candle closes and there is another BO.

Again, It all starts with the breakout!

Outside bars are treated differently:

The breakout with the greatest Iperiod is the line that stays.
The 1 and 2 candle can then push that line further if the range
is great enough and price moves to that price level.

aside from that a new BO sets the next line.

This Dynamic trend is a combination of momentum and Dynamic Fibs S&R.

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Postby Sledge100 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:45 am

TRO:
Any Chance you can code things to Multicharts? Looking to get the TRO_DYNAMIC_FIB indicator coded for Multicharts platform.
Thanks,
Aaron

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Postby es/pip » Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:08 am

MightyOne wrote:
es/pip wrote:Ok now that I am somewhat on the same page as you

When does the count (0,00) start over/how long is the measurement good for----only the current bar?


If bars 0 and 00 do not effect the price action do you restart the count as the new bars form?

If the measurement of 0,00 does effect the price action do you still walk the count forward as new bars form?

Not sure I expressed that the way I wanted to ----if not clear, I will do it on charts


For TRO's mental health let us use 0 as the current bar, 1 as the prev. bar (0), & 2 as the bar before that (00).

The first thing before any other consideration is the breakout; the
breakout starts it all.

The range of 1 & 2 from the low (in the case of a high BO) pushes the line up if:

1. they are higher than the breakout line.
2. the price on the current bar touches that price.

The lines remain until they are either moved higher or the candle closes and there is another BO.

Again, It all starts with the breakout!

Outside bars are treated differently:

The breakout with the greatest Iperiod is the line that stays.
The 1 and 2 candle can then push that line further if the range
is great enough and price moves to that price level.

aside from that a new BO sets the next line.

This Dynamic trend is a combination of momentum and Dynamic Fibs S&R.


k thanks

i think i understand all of it now

this is so interesting that i may switch things up and trade this

the only thing that ever "bothered" me about the zl/mz was having to wait so long for a correct setup----due to, when i first started trading was scalping stocks(before they changed it to .01 a tick) and i traded very large total volume at the end of the day. 1/16th here 1/4 here etc etc all day long

anyway

i have spent some time and going to spend a lot more tomorrow on this

but from what i have seen so far----using 30m-1hr,4hr for plotting the lines and trading 2-5 minute chart based off dfsr looks very interesting to say the least---and then applying your suggestion of expanding stops based on p/l makes it even look that much better

i love looking at new ideas that make sense----and this one may just completely take me away from zl's all together


it makes my head spin how you even think to come up with this kind of stuff----- i have spent thousands of hrs looking and trying all kinds of things and never have come up with anything remotely close to what you have presented

unreal

again thanks for what you are doing here

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Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:36 am

es/pip wrote:
MightyOne wrote:
es/pip wrote:Ok now that I am somewhat on the same page as you

When does the count (0,00) start over/how long is the measurement good for----only the current bar?


If bars 0 and 00 do not effect the price action do you restart the count as the new bars form?

If the measurement of 0,00 does effect the price action do you still walk the count forward as new bars form?

Not sure I expressed that the way I wanted to ----if not clear, I will do it on charts


For TRO's mental health let us use 0 as the current bar, 1 as the prev. bar (0), & 2 as the bar before that (00).

The first thing before any other consideration is the breakout; the
breakout starts it all.

The range of 1 & 2 from the low (in the case of a high BO) pushes the line up if:

1. they are higher than the breakout line.
2. the price on the current bar touches that price.

The lines remain until they are either moved higher or the candle closes and there is another BO.

Again, It all starts with the breakout!

Outside bars are treated differently:

The breakout with the greatest Iperiod is the line that stays.
The 1 and 2 candle can then push that line further if the range
is great enough and price moves to that price level.

aside from that a new BO sets the next line.

This Dynamic trend is a combination of momentum and Dynamic Fibs S&R.


k thanks

i think i understand all of it now

this is so interesting that i may switch things up and trade this

the only thing that ever "bothered" me about the zl/mz was having to wait so long for a correct setup----due to, when i first started trading was scalping stocks(before they changed it to .01 a tick) and i traded very large total volume at the end of the day. 1/16th here 1/4 here etc etc all day long

anyway

i have spent some time and going to spend a lot more tomorrow on this

but from what i have seen so far----using 30m-1hr,4hr for plotting the lines and trading 2-5 minute chart based off dfsr looks very interesting to say the least---and then applying your suggestion of expanding stops based on p/l makes it even look that much better

i love looking at new ideas that make sense----and this one may just completely take me away from zl's all together


it makes my head spin how you even think to come up with this kind of stuff----- i have spent thousands of hrs looking and trying all kinds of things and never have come up with anything remotely close to what you have presented

unreal

again thanks for what you are doing here


I don't care what they say...

A nice high quality micro beer and a set of charts and you are seeing things that no sober person can dream of :shock:

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Postby es/pip » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:05 am

MightyOne wrote:
es/pip wrote:
MightyOne wrote:
es/pip wrote:Ok now that I am somewhat on the same page as you

When does the count (0,00) start over/how long is the measurement good for----only the current bar?


If bars 0 and 00 do not effect the price action do you restart the count as the new bars form?

If the measurement of 0,00 does effect the price action do you still walk the count forward as new bars form?

Not sure I expressed that the way I wanted to ----if not clear, I will do it on charts


For TRO's mental health let us use 0 as the current bar, 1 as the prev. bar (0), & 2 as the bar before that (00).

The first thing before any other consideration is the breakout; the
breakout starts it all.

The range of 1 & 2 from the low (in the case of a high BO) pushes the line up if:

1. they are higher than the breakout line.
2. the price on the current bar touches that price.

The lines remain until they are either moved higher or the candle closes and there is another BO.

Again, It all starts with the breakout!

Outside bars are treated differently:

The breakout with the greatest Iperiod is the line that stays.
The 1 and 2 candle can then push that line further if the range
is great enough and price moves to that price level.

aside from that a new BO sets the next line.

This Dynamic trend is a combination of momentum and Dynamic Fibs S&R.


k thanks

i think i understand all of it now

this is so interesting that i may switch things up and trade this

the only thing that ever "bothered" me about the zl/mz was having to wait so long for a correct setup----due to, when i first started trading was scalping stocks(before they changed it to .01 a tick) and i traded very large total volume at the end of the day. 1/16th here 1/4 here etc etc all day long

anyway

i have spent some time and going to spend a lot more tomorrow on this

but from what i have seen so far----using 30m-1hr,4hr for plotting the lines and trading 2-5 minute chart based off dfsr looks very interesting to say the least---and then applying your suggestion of expanding stops based on p/l makes it even look that much better

i love looking at new ideas that make sense----and this one may just completely take me away from zl's all together


it makes my head spin how you even think to come up with this kind of stuff----- i have spent thousands of hrs looking and trying all kinds of things and never have come up with anything remotely close to what you have presented

unreal

again thanks for what you are doing here


I don't care what they say...

A nice high quality micro beer and a set of charts and you are seeing things that no sober person can dream of :shock:


lol with ya on that :D

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:44 am

Sledge100 wrote:TRO:
Any Chance you can code things to Multicharts? Looking to get the TRO_DYNAMIC_FIB indicator coded for Multicharts platform.
Thanks,
Aaron


TRO DYNAMIC FIBS SR was coded for TradeStation years ago. Just look for it in the Motherlodes.
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Postby inzider » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:44 am

Hi guys!

i use to post on FF but i'm trying new idea and falled here.
After last 100 pages i'm starting to understand the way you look at it. Starting...

Ok, mighty zone are 0.50% of a bar that is 2x larger then previous one - momo.

Zl are some what the 50% area on a momo bar? If i undertsood well.

That last 0-1-2 bar story is more complicated but whit more details following i'm sure i'll catch the idea.

What i want to know from this post is:
-what is the % at the top chart stand for, and were i can get it?
-talking about 0-1-2 bar, what's the line that your looking at, being push? And was is the point of it? Validation about continuation of a trend?
-how do you set your profit line - es seems to have a yellow line plotted whit price aside - all manualy done?

Sorry for that bunch of question.
I done some work, just hope you can solve "last" mystery

Thx all posting here, very apprieated!

Inz

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Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:31 am

inzider wrote:Hi guys!

i use to post on FF but i'm trying new idea and falled here.
After last 100 pages i'm starting to understand the way you look at it. Starting...

Ok, mighty zone are 0.50% of a bar that is 2x larger then previous one - momo.

Zl are some what the 50% area on a momo bar? If i undertsood well.

That last 0-1-2 bar story is more complicated but whit more details following i'm sure i'll catch the idea.

What i want to know from this post is:
-what is the % at the top chart stand for, and were i can get it?
-talking about 0-1-2 bar, what's the line that your looking at, being push? And was is the point of it? Validation about continuation of a trend?
-how do you set your profit line - es seems to have a yellow line plotted whit price aside - all manualy done?

Sorry for that bunch of question.
I done some work, just hope you can solve "last" mystery

Thx all posting here, very apprieated!

Inz


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