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Re: Two Z zone set ups...........

Postby Shadik » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:27 pm

razorboy wrote:looked like 2 momo bars in a row to me - means 2 z zones........

2nd and 3rd green bars after the "3"

Only the first one got hit - long @ 147.27 with 1 minute left in the 5 minute bar (7.29 EST) - out in the thumb area@.385


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Razorboy - i think that was very bad entry bec price didnt back to MZ zone but as we see on 147,36 minus spread was TP so u could try :)

BUT as I said u should entry on 1st MZ bec there price back to MZ..

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Postby es/pip » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:56 pm

deeforex wrote:
MightyOne wrote:
deeforex wrote:
es/pip wrote:i am not going to post anymore of my trades after this one

maybe one every once in a while

i think by now, considering i have posted 100's of charts that are exactly the same, that if someone wants to learn it they have plenty do go off of. Everythnig is in MO's posts and charts.

my posts are redundant at this point

i will help answer any q anyone may have.

MO,

i took my normal 4% risk per trade today but after the first winner i rolled 50% of net profit into (on top of the 4%) the next trade and then so forth on each additional trade. If i had a small loser or a b/e i started back over at 4% and did the same for each consecutive winner.

needless to say it turned a great day into a extremely great day to say the least

Not sure why what you said never really clicked for me. Then, for some reason i equated it to how i play blackjack and it clicked.

bet 100 win 2 hands bet 200 etc etc etc till i lose a hand and then start over

anyway, thanks again for everything u r doing here-------it is unreal what is possible from what i have learned from you, and to think i am still in MO 101 makes my head spin.


thanks again for your time

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Es or MO,

So are profits reinvested by increasing lot size or by increasing SL by the amount of your profits?


PROFITS ARE ADDED TO YOUR SL FOR STAYING POWER.

That said, do whatever you want.

MO: "PROFITS ARE ADDED TO YOUR SL FOR STAYING POWER."

Yes, that's what I thought. The BlackJack example led me to believe that we were betting our winnings. (i.e. increasing lotsize) Thanks for the clarification. MO, when you get a moment, could you please answer my questions from my chart/angle study from yesterday? Thanks. dee


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

oops :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

lol

wont try that again then

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Re: Two Z zone set ups...........

Postby razorboy » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:08 pm

I based my entry on it wicking the first zone - not the second - that second zone was not in existance when I entered the trade, it was there for a potential future trade. I just entered near the closing time of the candle that wicked the first zone

Shadik wrote:
razorboy wrote:looked like 2 momo bars in a row to me - means 2 z zones........

2nd and 3rd green bars after the "3"

Only the first one got hit - long @ 147.27 with 1 minute left in the 5 minute bar (7.29 EST) - out in the thumb area@.385


Pointers from the experts always appreciated

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Razorboy - i think that was very bad entry bec price didnt back to MZ zone but as we see on 147,36 minus spread was TP so u could try :)

BUT as I said u should entry on 1st MZ bec there price back to MZ..

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More Fun with Mo...........

Postby razorboy » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:27 pm

Momo bar - last big bear bar - label got moved some how - looked like a good solid Z line set up

short on last bar @ 133.80 - cover @ .68

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Postby MightyOne » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:58 pm

deeforex wrote:
MightyOne wrote:
deeforex wrote:
es/pip wrote:i am not going to post anymore of my trades after this one

maybe one every once in a while

i think by now, considering i have posted 100's of charts that are exactly the same, that if someone wants to learn it they have plenty do go off of. Everythnig is in MO's posts and charts.

my posts are redundant at this point

i will help answer any q anyone may have.

MO,

i took my normal 4% risk per trade today but after the first winner i rolled 50% of net profit into (on top of the 4%) the next trade and then so forth on each additional trade. If i had a small loser or a b/e i started back over at 4% and did the same for each consecutive winner.

needless to say it turned a great day into a extremely great day to say the least

Not sure why what you said never really clicked for me. Then, for some reason i equated it to how i play blackjack and it clicked.

bet 100 win 2 hands bet 200 etc etc etc till i lose a hand and then start over

anyway, thanks again for everything u r doing here-------it is unreal what is possible from what i have learned from you, and to think i am still in MO 101 makes my head spin.


thanks again for your time

Image


Es or MO,

So are profits reinvested by increasing lot size or by increasing SL by the amount of your profits?


PROFITS ARE ADDED TO YOUR SL FOR STAYING POWER.

That said, do whatever you want.

MO: "PROFITS ARE ADDED TO YOUR SL FOR STAYING POWER."

Yes, that's what I thought. The BlackJack example led me to believe that we were betting our winnings. (i.e. increasing lotsize) Thanks for the clarification. MO, when you get a moment, could you please answer my questions from my chart/angle study from yesterday? Thanks. dee


There is nothing to it Dee...

There are 5 angles: 15, 30, 45, 60, & 75

One of these angles will be accurate to within 5*:

10-15-20, 25-30-35, 40-45-50, 55-60-65, 70-75-80

Because channels never perfectly contain price a 5* margin of
error is completely acceptable.

If you see a 30* angle and you believe that price is running a tad slower then you can draw a 28* channel as that is within the range of error.

I hope that answers your questions.

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:10 pm

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DRAINING THE BANKS all day long.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

Please do NOT PM me with trading or coding questions, post them in a thread.

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Drain the banks clean chart

Postby brettnchrism » Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:21 pm

To make it simple this is a chart with 3LZZ Semafor, Dyanamic fibbs sr trail and multi meter candle color. The 3LZZ (big dots) will move but the dark red and dark blue dont. Triggers are the same. Big dots remind me where Im at.




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Postby es/pip » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:05 pm

all in all finished the day with +4%

considering all the b/e trades and this trade i posted, which i took a full stop on

great roi on the week



MO do you have any comments on this one, got in near the close of the wick bar

5 min slammed literally 30 pips taking me out before i could even think about getting out at b/e

i see the congestion to the left but with the increase of momo into it i thought it was going to go

thanks

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Postby ajaymein » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:21 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:Image

DRAINING THE BANKS all day long.


TRO, what happened to your SIMPLE charts with just a few horizontal lines. Looking at that chart gives me a HEADACHE!!!

HAHA j/k...there is a bunch of stuff on that chart tho, but as long as your Draining The Banks, its all good!

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Postby razorboy » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:26 am

what did the higher timeframe look like on this?

es/pip wrote:all in all finished the day with +4%

considering all the b/e trades and this trade i posted, which i took a full stop on

great roi on the week



MO do you have any comments on this one, got in near the close of the wick bar

5 min slammed literally 30 pips taking me out before i could even think about getting out at b/e

i see the congestion to the left but with the increase of momo into it i thought it was going to go

thanks

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