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I think I give up trying to codify zero lines...

(Z then = >78 pips)

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### Re: Selection

This ATR Pipvalue plug in was what I was referring too. obviously can do it by hand as well

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MO, I'd like to ask for 3 bits of confirmation of what I'm understanding so far...

X = body size considered to be non momentum

How do you determine X? Is that average range for all bars for this pair? Average range for all bars during some time period (maybe just when NY is open, or just the first hour, etc)?

+x, +y = candle in the direction of profit.

Do you mean that a movement of +x,+y has now established a Zeroline at price - x - y?

If +x, +y then -x, -z is needed to reverse.

So price has moved +x, +y (which is +3x), and starts retreating.... it is not considered to have reversed until price has moved back down -x,-z (which is -4x).

I have to think more about the rest of it, but wanted to be sure I was getting it so far.

Thanks again.

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1. Body closed in the direction of profit.

2. Wick in the direction of loss.

A. Body closed in the direction of profit.

B. Body is moving in the direction of profit.

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chip wrote:MO, I'd like to ask for 3 bits of confirmation of what I'm understanding so far...

X = body size considered to be non momentum

How do you determine X? Is that average range for all bars for this pair? Average range for all bars during some time period (maybe just when NY is open, or just the first hour, etc)?

+x, +y = candle in the direction of profit.

Do you mean that a movement of +x,+y has now established a Zeroline at price - x - y?

If +x, +y then -x, -z is needed to reverse.

So price has moved +x, +y (which is +3x), and starts retreating.... it is not considered to have reversed until price has moved back down -x,-z (which is -4x).

I have to think more about the rest of it, but wanted to be sure I was getting it so far.

Thanks again.

X < Y/2 & Z/3

The picture may have confused you; it is about the size of the body closes (momentum + held profit) not about how far price has moved.

Taking the complexity down a notch you could answer the complex question of what is considered to be non momentum by asking:

If Y > 2X then what is non momentum?

Consider the bodies in the direction of profit that establish a zero line and also qualify as being Y.

If you consider Y divided by 2 to be momentum then maybe you have found Z.

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MO, THANK YOU so much for your latest attempts to codify z-line!

Below is one of your charts with my notations of areas in question.

Are the red boxed areas, that I marked -z, how you saw these bars as one longer timeframe z-bar?

ok, now to the questions that I have marked on the chart

0) Why does this qualify as +z when it's not 3x?
1) Why is this not -x? How does this bar differ from the next one that is a -x?
3) Are these bars just too small for reversal +x because they're not 1/3 of z (z/3)?
4) Am correct to say that these aren't 2x, therefore don't qualify as +y? Between these 2 yellow-circled bars, is that a failed -z because it's not 3x?
5) Question similar to #1.

THANKS AGAIN!!!!
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deeforex wrote:MO, THANK YOU so much for your latest attempts to codify z-line!

Below is one of your charts with my notations of areas in question.

Are the red boxed areas, that I marked -z, how you saw these bars as one longer timeframe z-bar?

ok, now to the questions that I have marked on the chart

0) Why does this qualify as +z when it's not 3x?
1) Why is this not -x? How does this bar differ from the next one that is a -x?
3) Are these bars just too small for reversal +x because they're not 1/3 of z (z/3)?
4) Am correct to say that these aren't 2x, therefore don't qualify as +y? Between these 2 yellow-circled bars, is that a failed -z because it's not 3x?
5) Question similar to #1.

THANKS AGAIN!!!!
dee

0) The candle marked X was Z momentum followed by X. Since the momentum for reversing from -x.-y is +x, +z that is how it was labeled.
1) together they are X.
2) No, you are only considering breakout momentum.
3) They are all non momentum.
4) Momentum was not Z. Note that in the "failed" red section you could have labeled a -x, -y for a classic zero line. The reverse then would have cont. +x, +z, +x, +y followed by -x, -z, +x.

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OK, I am still working on coding zero lines.

Here's what I see...

If the candles reverse color, the reversing candle's body is now X. Plot dots at close plus 2X (Y, yellow) and close plus 3X (Z, orange).

Those levels remain until another reversal ( spatial intelligence ).

If you stare at the chart, you just might SEE IT.

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Which one of the indicators are you referring to here?
You call it the "macd trigger"
http://www.forex-tsd.com/commercial-tra ... rs-16.html

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The MACD / BuyZone trigger tore up the GBPJPY today!!

Scalped it all day long.

A good buddy stopped by my FREE Chat | Chat Rooms | Paltalk chat room (TWO PERCENT CLUB) today and loaded up the trigger. He got to see firsthand how it called a long that was worth about 30 pips in a minute! It also kept us out of a short trade that would normally be triggered by the Buy Zone alone.

The latest RISK ANALYSIS uses the BuyZone for the H1 and D1, the H1 Vegas Tunnel, jjrvat's PBP and my Dynamic S/R to gauge the risk of the trade. The risk parameters are inputs so you can adjust the risk value for each risk type or turn one or more off by setting the input to 0.

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Also, I've found the vegas tunnel multi meter but cannot find the vegas tunnel indicator. I know I saw it somewhere as you referred to it as the "best free system" you've seen.
Will you point me in the right direction for these?
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TRO TUNNEL defaults to the Vegas Tunnel.