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Postby bacoazul » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:17 am

pablo101 wrote:
bacoazul wrote:Ok this made my week, it was fast, just 3 days
, i also have a -98 and +60 on usdchf, waiting to
long again if i get a proper entry



Hi bacoa, "-98"? :shock:


Yes, i have 200 to spend so i put a 130 sl,
I have a MOMO on D3 and -125 was the low,
but one fast H12 MOMO down tell me that i
was maybe in the wrong side, so i get a little
H12 MOMO up and trade long again and close
when the nest green H12 coulnd't past the big
red H12 MOMO, so i get -98 and +60 =).
BTW my first long was 8 days ago, and im still
expecting my big up move, one of those 1 month
trades
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Postby bacoazul » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:23 am

pablo101 wrote:
bacoazul wrote:Ok this made my week, it was fast, just 3 days
, i also have a -98 and +60 on usdchf, waiting to
long again if i get a proper entry



Hi bacoa, "-98"? :shock:


Its like a MegaRat of -9.8 and +6.0 pips =)
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.

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Postby es/pip » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:14 am

cfabian wrote:My trade from today... please critique.

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I am not saying any of this against the way that dragon trades

I think what everyone needs to realize is, you need to take the "idea" or " method" and make it your own.

If i took Dragon's charts and tried to trade it exactly the way he does i would probably lose money.

If i took MO's charts and tried to trade them exactly the way he does i would also probably lose money.

If they took my charts and tried to trade my charts would they make money?

maybe, who the hell knows for sure.

What i am saying is, everyone will view what they see in a different way. It will be similar but always a tad different.


What all this boils down to is a "tad" bit of feel and a s**t load of screen time. After a certain amount of time you just start to see things that can not be explained in words.

If you gave Dragon or MO a layout that had nothing but an RSI and a STOCH on it, and they had to trade off it would they make money?

Yes

Why?

because of the amount of time that they have spent in front of the screens. They would not trade the RSI or the STOCH based on what they say, but would trade them based of what is happening with the PA and MOMO.

Take all that with a grain of salt, because i have TRIED to train people and they do not get it, and i think Dragon has trained people that have "gotten" it.

This is what you should ask yourself....... " if i was the big swinging dick around these parts and had 1 billion i needed to buy, but i couldn't move the market then where should i get in? Being this big swinging dick, i would want to take other traders stops as my entry ----------- MAYBE NOT ALWAYS IN THE ACTUAL SENSE BUT IN THE GENERAL AREA.

WHY?

because the guys with all the coin need the liquidity in order to get in and out without moving the market------- WHY----- so they can get the price they want.

Why does MO exit on wide range bars? Because the pros are selling into those, this can take a VSA turn here -------- but it is all the same.

95% of everyone loses at this game, do the opposite of what they do.

this is how i would have looked at that


1. the rat was here

2. what happened here? what does this mean?

3. 2nd chance to get on the train down

4. longs maybe?

5. maybe shorts now?

6. longs again?

7. Shorts?

then you take all that and add in momo for continuation trades.

fade extremes

trade with momo

its not rocket science

this is just based on the PA, the range is too tight so i am not saying i took all those trades

CAN U TELL I AM s**t CANNED?????? 8)


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Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:45 am

es/pip wrote:
cfabian wrote:My trade from today... please critique.

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I am not saying any of this against the way that dragon trades

I think what everyone needs to realize is, you need to take the "idea" or " method" and make it your own.

If i took Dragon's charts and tried to trade it exactly the way he does i would probably lose money.

If i took MO's charts and tried to trade them exactly the way he does i would also probably lose money.

If they took my charts and tried to trade my charts would they make money?

maybe, who the hell knows for sure.

What i am saying is, everyone will view what they see in a different way. It will be similar but always a tad different.


What all this boils down to is a "tad" bit of feel and a s**t load of screen time. After a certain amount of time you just start to see things that can not be explained in words.

If you gave Dragon or MO a layout that had nothing but an RSI and a STOCH on it, and they had to trade off it would they make money?

Yes

Why?

because of the amount of time that they have spent in front of the screens. They would not trade the RSI or the STOCH based on what they say, but would trade them based of what is happening with the PA and MOMO.

Take all that with a grain of salt, because i have TRIED to train people and they do not get it, and i think Dragon has trained people that have "gotten" it.

This is what you should ask yourself....... " if i was the big swinging dick around these parts and had 1 billion i needed to buy, but i couldn't move the market then where should i get in? Being this big swinging dick, i would want to take other traders stops as my entry ----------- MAYBE NOT ALWAYS IN THE ACTUAL SENSE BUT IN THE GENERAL AREA.

WHY?

because the guys with all the coin need the liquidity in order to get in and out without moving the market------- WHY----- so they can get the price they want.

Why does MO exit on wide range bars? Because the pros are selling into those, this can take a VSA turn here -------- but it is all the same.

95% of everyone loses at this game, do the opposite of what they do.

this is how i would have looked at that


1. the rat was here

2. what happened here? what does this mean?

3. 2nd chance to get on the train down

4. longs maybe?

5. maybe shorts now?

6. longs again?

7. Shorts?

then you take all that and add in momo for continuation trades.

fade extremes

trade with momo

its not rocket science

this is just based on the PA, the range is too tight so i am not saying i took all those trades

CAN U TELL I AM s**t CANNED?????? 8)


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Postby Pro Trader » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:28 am

EJ Short

Price failed at H1/H4 open+close of opposite colour candles.

Wicked the 15m zline at the daily high so took the red rat short targeting the H1 zline down below.

A fair few wick dolls confirmed my thoughts.

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Postby dragon33 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:06 am

cfabian wrote:Nice trade Dragon... I wish I can make those lousy 68 pips a day :)

One question here... I can see your exit is based on H4 BO. I want to know what prevented you from looking for a long in that area (where you exit), in case you didn't trade take it?

Thanks,


dragon33 wrote:
flex wrote:today was a really shitty day. one of those days when i would be really interested in how dragon and the others did. ;)


Yes it was a shitty day. Whole day waiting to make some pips.

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Actually it was the 50% area of the H1. Those are my supports and i want to see what happens next before is start a new trade.

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Postby pablo101 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:00 pm

bacoazul wrote:
pablo101 wrote:
bacoazul wrote:Ok this made my week, it was fast, just 3 days
, i also have a -98 and +60 on usdchf, waiting to
long again if i get a proper entry



Hi bacoa, "-98"? :shock:


Its like a MegaRat of -9.8 and +6.0 pips =)


Thx bacoa.

'Megarat' .... I like that haha :lol:

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Postby scheeco » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:35 pm

dragon33 wrote:
cfabian wrote:Nice trade Dragon... I wish I can make those lousy 68 pips a day :)

One question here... I can see your exit is based on H4 BO. I want to know what prevented you from looking for a long in that area (where you exit), in case you didn't trade take it?

Thanks,


dragon33 wrote:
flex wrote:today was a really shitty day. one of those days when i would be really interested in how dragon and the others did. ;)


Yes it was a shitty day. Whole day waiting to make some pips.

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Actually it was the 50% area of the H1. Those are my supports and i want to see what happens next before is start a new trade.

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Also got in the second trade you have there Dragon, saw the MOMO and sema but looked for additional confirmation with S/R and 79% fibs retrace to protect my stop.
Got in at 1.55420 and tookprofit at 1.5526.
I only wish I knew when to hold longer.
Well I learn so that is good!

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Postby newschool » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:59 pm

es/pip you are not an engineer thats for sure. Myself I see everything around me following the laws of physics, in a very predictable way. Trading isn't different.

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Postby flex » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:27 pm

unfortunately i had another loser.

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was that too early? h4 didn't close lower than the low. h1 neither.

edit: hmm, or was it because h4 made a new low before?

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