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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby dojirock » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:48 pm

Mr. Hyde,

"My fav trades are against what some here think is momo but its just price spiking to revisit the highest high (were we look to exit)."

Perfectly said!!!!

This is what im getting at and the traders we can help. If one can define momo, there is no confusion.
I can see your definition, clear as day. Its not mine, but thats ok. You have one, thus you can trade it!

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Mr. Hyde wrote:
tom7ak wrote:ccc.png

if... and only if you assume momentum is on that line. At what point is it removed? wick or close? Where is the opposite momentum that removed this one?
remember It TAKES momentum...
Does it have to have similar appearance?...
Ok, lets assume you found momentum that removed momentum. what do u do with it? does it tell u the direction? is it a trigger?

Thats my understanding. The IDEA, i think is only ONE, but its perception and realisation could be many. This one might not be yours.


Look for momo to close over/under another momo bar or for it to get rejected.

My fav trades are against what some here think is momo but its just price spiking to revisit the highest high (were we look to exit).
It always takes Momentum to break Momentum!
"A small loss is just as satisfying as a large gain" -MO
"Sometimes we need to stop learning and start thinking...."
"Once you stack, you'll never go back!"

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby dojirock » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:53 pm

I will have 3- 27" 1440 Screens. I will post pics when finished, Im going from a laptop to this setup. The best part is that its all bought and paid for from trading.

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It always takes Momentum to break Momentum!
"A small loss is just as satisfying as a large gain" -MO
"Sometimes we need to stop learning and start thinking...."
"Once you stack, you'll never go back!"

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mr. Hyde » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:08 pm

dojirock wrote:I will have 3- 27" 1440 Screens. I will post pics when finished, Im going from a laptop to this setup. The best part is that its all bought and paid for from trading.

doji


That's awesome. Im looking at upgrading this summer.

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mira » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:51 pm

dojirock wrote:Mr. Hyde,

"My fav trades are against what some here think is momo but its just price spiking to revisit the highest high (were we look to exit)."

Perfectly said!!!!

This is what im getting at and the traders we can help. If one can define momo, there is no confusion.
I can see your definition, clear as day. Its not mine, but thats ok. You have one, thus you can trade it!

doji








Mr. Hyde wrote:
tom7ak wrote:ccc.png

if... and only if you assume momentum is on that line. At what point is it removed? wick or close? Where is the opposite momentum that removed this one?
remember It TAKES momentum...
Does it have to have similar appearance?...
Ok, lets assume you found momentum that removed momentum. what do u do with it? does it tell u the direction? is it a trigger?

Thats my understanding. The IDEA, i think is only ONE, but its perception and realisation could be many. This one might not be yours.


Look for momo to close over/under another momo bar or for it to get rejected.

My fav trades are against what some here think is momo but its just price spiking to revisit the highest high (were we look to exit).


Cool! Finally a good news :D
That is what I meant when I said "triggered stop losses".. I think I got this definition when I thought to MO's statement "If you can see the loss then you can see the profit".

Thank you guys for your help!
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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mr. Hyde » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:39 pm

Mira wrote:
tom7ak wrote:It all depends what the Market is - is it a Pharmacy (precise- `significance of closes' etc) or the opposite. Is the Origin the point or the zone?
"AS LONG AS IT IS BACK FOR DINNER"

It gets a bit more tricky for me here. Origin. Even if we determine precisely what momentum is and what Origin is - the Origin would depend on which TF we look at. Unless we go for the EXTREME - there all TFs meet:)

You promised us some charts with trades, if i remember correctly:)


LOL you're right.. but my markets, for now, are:

UJ
EG
EU
GOLD

I trade 4H+ and I look for extremes, I'm waiting for something interesting


Something interesting
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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mira » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:10 pm

Mr. Hyde wrote:
Something interesting


With ya 8)

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby tom7ak » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:30 pm

Mr. Hyde wrote:
tom7ak wrote:ccc.png

if... and only if you assume momentum is on that line. At what point is it removed? wick or close? Where is the opposite momentum that removed this one?
remember It TAKES momentum...
Does it have to have similar appearance?...
Ok, lets assume you found momentum that removed momentum. what do u do with it? does it tell u the direction? is it a trigger?

Thats my understanding. The IDEA, i think is only ONE, but its perception and realisation could be many. This one might not be yours.


Look for momo to close over/under another momo bar or for it to get rejected.

My fav trades are against what some here think is momo but its just price spiking to revisit the highest high (were we look to exit).


Thanks Mr.Hyde. I looked at this pattern before, but i think i need to get there other way, by understanding why its doing what its doing (momentum). do u use this pattern for bias or entry or both?
you got 2 slow it down
and then u pick it up - PF
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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mira » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:34 pm

Mira wrote:
Mr. Hyde wrote:
Something interesting


With ya 8)

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Like butter.. UJ wants W A R

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mr. Hyde » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:11 am

tom7ak wrote:
Mr. Hyde wrote:
tom7ak wrote:ccc.png

if... and only if you assume momentum is on that line. At what point is it removed? wick or close? Where is the opposite momentum that removed this one?
remember It TAKES momentum...
Does it have to have similar appearance?...
Ok, lets assume you found momentum that removed momentum. what do u do with it? does it tell u the direction? is it a trigger?

Thats my understanding. The IDEA, i think is only ONE, but its perception and realisation could be many. This one might not be yours.


Look for momo to close over/under another momo bar or for it to get rejected.

My fav trades are against what some here think is momo but its just price spiking to revisit the highest high (were we look to exit).


Thanks Mr.Hyde. I looked at this pattern before, but i think i need to get there other way, by understanding why its doing what its doing (momentum). do u use this pattern for bias or entry or both?


both

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mira » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:44 am

MightyOne wrote:I want to laugh but it is just too sad...
when I see traders saying, 'look at this guy who stacked, increasing his account by 20-40% in just weeks only to get stopped out!'

It works like this:

say that you are trading 2 lots over 30 pips, stack to 12 lots, & liquidate 10 pips from your position getting stopped.

you might think 'what a fool, he started with 30 pips of space and now he has 10 pips!' but in reality he made 2:1 getting stopped out with a small profit!

His downside is the same as yours, his worst trade is your best trade, and his best trade is your wet dream.

A dark mind can only see dark things, it focuses only on profit so it will only see loss.
An illuminated mind sees the pitfalls, it focuses only on loss so it will only see gains.

The ZL is not just a line, it is a mindset.



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