2009.09.10 DRAIN THE BANKS - LIKE A RAT

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Postby pip9999 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:19 am

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What I am seeing is that if you are a green rat if you trade when price is above the weekly open (white line) and if you are a red rat if you trade when price is below the week open, you get the most cheese.

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Hi Avery,

1. What is the reason that you prefer Weekly open instead of Daily open to trade Green Rat(Tro Rat Trainning wheel) only ? or vice versa.

2. Sorry Avery, I Think Red Reverse is a good Trading system, but however, we need additional confirmation if we want increase Rad Reverse success rate.

If I want to make more accurate Rat reverse method with confirmation using VSA Uptrust/reverse Uptrust volume confirmation, How can I modify Tro2009_Rat_Plot indicator (Trigger line) into :

green-red-red---->short triggerline appears, if stop out (Pull back/vsa testing), after green bar 10pips SL stop out, if candle back down to red candle below daily High , re-entry to "New" short trigger line. This situation(consolidation phrase at daily High or Low) happens many time and make me doubt with Profitablity using Rat reverse Method

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Reference & comment

Quote from VSA TradeGuider Youtube :

"1. Reverse Upthrust which is considered strength, so you buy on next green bar.

Comment----->Identical with Green Rat, but VSA needs to be confirmed with Backround to go long

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2.Upthrust bar, which is considered weakness, occurs when the smart money is capping the market and no longer support higher prices, short on next confirming down bar.

Comment---->identical with Red Rat, but VSA needs to be confirmed with Backround to go short

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3. Stopping volume is considered a sign of strength, where smart money steps in to support the price, which usually knocks the price sideways, wait for next up bar as confirmation to go long.

Comment------>Green Rat confirmation

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4. Reverse upthrust, however we didn't get a confirming up bar instead we got an upthrust which was confirmed by a down bar.

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5. Stopping volume confirmed by the next up bar to go long.

Comment------>RED RAt Break to go LOng. this could be happened after Trigger Red Rat line, the next bar is Green and break to the Long side.

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6.Reverse upthrust sign of prior strength in background

Comment----> identical with Green Rat.
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7. Upthrust which is has prior weakness in the background, great time to go short--.

Comment-----> identical with red Rat.

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8.Reverse Upthrust which is a sign of strength however, you should wait for confirmation in the form of an upbar before going long.

Comment------> identical with Green Rat reverse.

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9.Upthrust is a sign of weakness to go short.

Comment-----> identical with Red Rat reverse.

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10.Stopping volume followed by up bar is a sign of strength go long.

Comment ------> I use Tro Stopping volume indi

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11. Test bar, which is a sign for smart money testing to see if any supply remains in the market before they begin to markup price.

Tro2009_Rat_Plot------>Trigger line appears after : red-green-green or green-rat-rat.

Tro Rat_Plot reentry---->Trigger line re appears after stop-out.

------red-green-green-red(Pull back or testing)-----green(long trigger line) and vice versa

Thank you

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Postby skajake » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:40 am

Real live trade: Green Rat Meal

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Postby skajake » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:44 am

Consider this:

In a world where there are no spreads, commissions, or slippage:

A monkey is given the ability to randomly place long orders on an hourly chart with a 20 pip target profit and a 20 pip stop loss.

The monkey places as many trades as he cares to over time.

What would you expect his account balance to look like after one month?

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:26 am

Patch:

Yale, no. Univ of Maryland, College Park.

You just don't get it. I can't explain it any simpler.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:28 am

pip9999 wrote:
TheRumpledOne wrote:What I am seeing is that if you are a green rat if you trade when price is above the weekly open (white line) and if you are a red rat if you trade when price is below the week open, you get the most cheese.

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Hi Avery,

1. What is the reason that you prefer Weekly open instead of Daily open to trade Green Rat(Tro Rat Trainning wheel) only ? or vice versa.

2. Sorry Avery, I Think Red Reverse is a good Trading system, but however, we need additional confirmation if we want increase Rad Reverse success rate.

If I want to make more accurate Rat reverse method with confirmation using VSA Uptrust/reverse Uptrust volume confirmation, How can I modify Tro2009_Rat_Plot indicator (Trigger line) into :

green-red-red---->short triggerline appears, if stop out (Pull back/vsa testing), after green bar 10pips SL stop out, if candle back down to red candle below daily High , re-entry to "New" short trigger line. This situation(consolidation phrase at daily High or Low) happens many time and make me doubt with Profitablity using Rat reverse Method

====================

Reference & comment

Quote from VSA TradeGuider Youtube :

"1. Reverse Upthrust which is considered strength, so you buy on next green bar.

Comment----->Identical with Green Rat, but VSA needs to be confirmed with Backround to go long

-----------------------------------------------------------
2.Upthrust bar, which is considered weakness, occurs when the smart money is capping the market and no longer support higher prices, short on next confirming down bar.

Comment---->identical with Red Rat, but VSA needs to be confirmed with Backround to go short

----------------------------------------------------------

3. Stopping volume is considered a sign of strength, where smart money steps in to support the price, which usually knocks the price sideways, wait for next up bar as confirmation to go long.

Comment------>Green Rat confirmation

------------------------------------------------------
4. Reverse upthrust, however we didn't get a confirming up bar instead we got an upthrust which was confirmed by a down bar.

------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Stopping volume confirmed by the next up bar to go long.

Comment------>RED RAt Break to go LOng. this could be happened after Trigger Red Rat line, the next bar is Green and break to the Long side.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
6.Reverse upthrust sign of prior strength in background

Comment----> identical with Green Rat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
7. Upthrust which is has prior weakness in the background, great time to go short--.

Comment-----> identical with red Rat.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8.Reverse Upthrust which is a sign of strength however, you should wait for confirmation in the form of an upbar before going long.

Comment------> identical with Green Rat reverse.

-------------------------------------------------------
9.Upthrust is a sign of weakness to go short.

Comment-----> identical with Red Rat reverse.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10.Stopping volume followed by up bar is a sign of strength go long.

Comment ------> I use Tro Stopping volume indi

--------------------------------------------------------------
11. Test bar, which is a sign for smart money testing to see if any supply remains in the market before they begin to markup price.

Tro2009_Rat_Plot------>Trigger line appears after : red-green-green or green-rat-rat.

Tro Rat_Plot reentry---->Trigger line re appears after stop-out.

------red-green-green-red(Pull back or testing)-----green(long trigger line) and vice versa

Thank you


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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:29 am

skajake wrote:Real live trade: Green Rat Meal

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It is obvious to this reader that you are NOT Yale material.

Good job!!
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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:34 am

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QUIT THINKING!

QUIT ANALYZING!

FOLLOW THE RAT REVERSAL TRADING RULES "AS IS"

OR

GO TO YALE... LOL!

THIS IS SO SIMPLE...

However, if you can NOT see it, then DO NOT TRADE IT!
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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:53 pm

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When price crosses the WEEKLY OPEN, it some times does so with a vengeance.
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Postby pp2 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:13 pm

TheRumpledOne wrote:Image

QUIT THINKING!

QUIT ANALYZING!

FOLLOW THE RAT REVERSAL TRADING RULES "AS IS"

OR

GO TO YALE... LOL!

THIS IS SO SIMPLE...

However, if you can NOT see it, then DO NOT TRADE IT!


I'm not Yale material, believe me.

Can I ask are you talking about previous day daily low or the day low of the day?

The rules for this trading is simple, no prob, no need to be a yale or any other student to take these 20 pips from the bottom trades.

But how about the tro2009 rat plot scalps please TRO, you're a scalper I think, so can you give some pointers? How/what/when/where can we take trades so that we can have a more win than loss ratio, I can't just take every single trade when a line appears ehh? :roll:

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:53 pm

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SEE WHAT I MEAN?
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