2009.09.10 DRAIN THE BANKS - LIKE A RAT

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Postby bettlebox » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:17 am

Tro

EDIT- in the picture - candle marked "I" should read "broke high and low regard to previous candle, body closed "red"".


I starting to luv these statements they are unlocking things in my mind.

If i was a green rat then i would not be entering a trade on a candle thats "breaking to the low" of pervious candle, i would be waiting for price to start breaking to the high, then and only then i would be looking for my rat trade. Heres what i see:-

For example i won't go long on the break of the green candle(one just before candle marked "A") because that green candle "Broke to the low" in regard to candle previous.

(i ran out of space for comments on candles marked "J" and "k" but you get the idea)



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RESULTS.

"Now, 2 patterns of market behavior happen on a regular basis:

1) the price breaks to new high's (or low's)

2) the price reverses from new high's (or low's)

They happen regardless of time frame (with the obvious limitations explained above)

They are phenomena that can be exploited without the fear if found out by others, that they might cease to exist."
- H. Rearden
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Postby oldmangeezer » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:11 am

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1) Price within 20 pips of the daily low (ClLo < 20) - that is OPPORTUNITY

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The important part is to enter WITHIN 20 pips of the daily low. The RAT REVERSAL is only one entry method.

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Trading is GUESSING. If it wasn't, you wouldn't need a STOP LOSS.

THINK ABOUT IT!!


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MAXIMUM RISK = 2% * ACCOUNT BALANCE.

STOP LOSS = 10 PIPS. (INCLUDING SPREAD)

POSITION SIZE = RISK / STOP LOSS.

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1) To trade like a RAT is to ALWAYS trade in ONE DIRECTION - either LONG or SHORT. Once you pick a "team", you can't switch.

2) The "within 20 pips of the daily high/low" is the BEST possible entry to get the maximum run BUT the RAT REVERSAL entry works ANYWHERE on the chart.

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"Now, 2 patterns of market behavior happen on a regular basis:

1) the price breaks to new high's (or low's)

2) the price reverses from new high's (or low's)

They happen regardless of time frame (with the obvious limitations explained above)

They are phenomena that can be exploited without the fear if found out by others, that they might cease to exist." - H. Rearden

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1) Price within 20 pips of the daily low (ClLo < 20): This is OPPORTUNITY

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WHY ISN'T EVERYBODY DOING IT?

Most of you know I catch a lot of flak on my forums because SOME PEOPLE don't like the way I post.

One worn out argument that is used repeatedly is, "If this is so (simple, great, profitable, ), then why isn't everybody doing it?"

Simple answer is because SOYLENT GREEN is people!

We all know exercise is great, but how many actually exercise?

We all know smoking is bad, but how many do it anyway?

We all know which foods are bad for our health, but how many eat those foods?

We all know that we should save for our future and spend less than we earn but who does that?

The list is almost endless.

As long as there are people, there will always be some STUPID people and some smart people making STUPID decisions, where STUPID is defined as knowing better but acting otherwise.

Meanwhile, the RATS are still beating the Yale students.

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Are you trading AGAINST the H1 candle color?

Are you trading AGAINST the D1 candle color?

Are you trading AGAINST the W1 candle color?

Unless you know what the entry trigger is, how can you determine the timing of the entry?

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1) price within 20 pips of the daily low - that is OPPORTUNITY

2) red candle closes

3) green candle closes - note the high price of the green candle.

4) enter long at the green candle's high price

5) STOP LOSS IS 10 PIPS

6) Take whatever profit you can.

7) If the rules do not mention it, then it is of no concern.

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The important part is to enter WITHIN 20 pips of the daily low. The RAT REVERSAL is only one entry method.

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Postby oldmangeezer » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:15 am

My question is this:

If you are a "Green Rat" team member and you are trading long wouldn't the candle color for 1 Hour be RED most of the time?

Or would you not trade the RAT Method using the candle color indicator?

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Postby oldmangeezer » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:18 am

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Postby oldmangeezer » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:20 am

I should have quoted TRO in my first set of posts. These are TRO's not mine.
Sorry!

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Postby bettlebox » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:32 pm

so geezer can you explain me why TRO quoted this :-

"Now, 2 patterns of market behavior happen on a regular basis:

1) the price breaks to new high's (or low's)

2) the price reverses from new high's (or low's)

They happen regardless of time frame (with the obvious limitations explained above)

They are phenomena that can be exploited without the fear if found out by others, that they might cease to exist." - H. Rearden"

Why would TRO go out his way and throw things into mix which are outside the rules. Ummmm?

Let me think maybe hes trying give us a clue.

Maybe i will stop trying to see price action and just the follow the rules blindly. :?
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Postby nickohorny » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:51 pm

I'm kinda struggling with this also, I have for the last 2 days had my MP HLC PIP chart open, awaiting for opportunity (green rat) so the ClLo coloum to show -20 pips.

When they do, any currency is pretty much bias down in H1/D1/W1... AT LEAST 2 out of the 3 have been, and rule of thumb stating DO NOT GO LONG IF BELOW WEEKLY / DAILY is making me get impatient as I'm finding it hard to find real opportunity with these rules of thumb.
I am complete newbie, so do not want to begin breaking rules and want to strictly follow trading long when the bias matches to be safe, but as I say I have yet to find a pair to practice entry on due to this!
I am only looking at a couple of pairs to keep it simple also, but even still glancing over EVERY pair I have not seen the bias match.

Any advice?
Thanks :roll:

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Postby oldmangeezer » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:53 pm

If you place line on your chart using the daily high and daily low from my midnight candle.

I do this with the 1 hour chart first when I get up in the morning.

What TRO is saying (I think) is that price will break the previous daily highs and lows.

1) If you have a daily high and daily low on your chart and your watching price you will see it break through these areas (sometimes).

2) If you see price close within 20 pips of the daily high (Red Rat Team) or daily low (Green Rat Team) this is where watch for a potential set-up for a Rat Trade. Of course this depends what Rat you are!!

If this is incorrect hopefully someone will correct this

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:21 pm

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<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

1) Price within 20 pips of the daily low (ClLo < 20) - that is OPPORTUNITY

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

The important part is to enter WITHIN 20 pips of the daily low. The RAT REVERSAL is only one entry method.

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

Trading is GUESSING. If it wasn't, you wouldn't need a STOP LOSS.

THINK ABOUT IT!!


<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

MAXIMUM RISK = 2% * ACCOUNT BALANCE.

STOP LOSS = 10 PIPS. (INCLUDING SPREAD)

POSITION SIZE = RISK / STOP LOSS.

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

1) To trade like a RAT is to ALWAYS trade in ONE DIRECTION - either LONG or SHORT. Once you pick a "team", you can't switch.

2) The "within 20 pips of the daily high/low" is the BEST possible entry to get the maximum run BUT the RAT REVERSAL entry works ANYWHERE on the chart.

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PLEASE DO NOT PM ME WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT TRADING, INDICATORS, CODING, ETC... Post your questions in the forum. Thank you.
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Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:46 pm

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<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

1) Price within 20 pips of the daily low (ClLo < 20) - that is OPPORTUNITY

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

The important part is to enter WITHIN 20 pips of the daily low. The RAT REVERSAL is only one entry method.

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

Trading is GUESSING. If it wasn't, you wouldn't need a STOP LOSS.

THINK ABOUT IT!!


<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

MAXIMUM RISK = 2% * ACCOUNT BALANCE.

STOP LOSS = 10 PIPS. (INCLUDING SPREAD)

POSITION SIZE = RISK / STOP LOSS.

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

1) To trade like a RAT is to ALWAYS trade in ONE DIRECTION - either LONG or SHORT. Once you pick a "team", you can't switch.

2) The "within 20 pips of the daily high/low" is the BEST possible entry to get the maximum run BUT the RAT REVERSAL entry works ANYWHERE on the chart.

<-------------------------------------------------------------------->

PLEASE DO NOT PM ME WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT TRADING, INDICATORS, CODING, ETC... Post your questions in the forum. Thank you.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!



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