2009.09.10 DRAIN THE BANKS - LIKE A RAT

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Postby nickohorny » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:40 pm

Hi, could someone please help answer the following on the chart posted below. Thanking you kindly!



Lastly - I have some basic questions regarding entry and exit:
Entry: If I am green rat, and I wish to go long, I am to place a 'buy stop limit' ABOVE current price correct? as if price is on GBP/USD as 1.5803'3' and the rat marks to enter at 1.5806'4' for example - I am to place the order due to it being ABOVE current market price and simply WAIT. Correct?

StopLoss: I understand rules say 10 pips. But once order is executed from the ASK price I am currently down roughly 2 pips due to spread, my stop is places and is 10 pips from my entry, so it's currently only 8 pips away from as soon as I entered. Is this normal or should I be accounting for the spread and have my stop at 10 pips FROM THE BID, so roughly 12 pips from entry?


Sorry for such basic questions - I am an ultra newb and just want to have peace of mind I am beginning to practie correctly is all!

Thanks for the help
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Postby TheRumpledOne » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:46 pm

Do you have the most recent version of the TRO_RAT_ZONE? It should display H1, D1 and W1.

The MP_HLC_PIPS is correct for the current day. It looks like you are looking at the low of the previous day.

You can enter using whatever type of order you want.

The 10 pip stop loss includes the spread.
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Postby nickohorny » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:58 pm

Thanks TRO

I thought I was yeah, I will go back and check the latest one from the motherlode and see if that works out. I wasn't aware you did a version displaying the H1 also so thanks for that.

hmmm I'm confused now, My chart shows the low and high from midnight - midnight.
So here it is showing the low from Mdnight Eastern time...My MT4 displays the time -5 hours GMT. Is this not correct? I thought we took the 20 pip zones for high and low in the 24 hour period from midnight?

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:20 pm

Day start/end depends on the broker.
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Postby nickohorny » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:38 pm

Hi, my MP HLC pip chart def seems confusing to me..
Please see the pic, you can see it is telling me that GBP/CHF is within 20 pips of low - but on the chart it is actually within the high!

The time is right, its at 8.20am eastern, so im unsure what's up? it's kind of stopping me practicing as it is telling me wrong things. Is there something within the settings I need to change? Thanks

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:59 pm

Refresh your M5 chart!!
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Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:00 pm

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"Look, for example, at this elegant little experiment. A rat was put in a T-shaped maze with a few morsels of food placed on either the far right or left side of the enclosure. The placement of the food is randomly determined, but the dice is rigged: over the long run, the food was placed on the left side sixty per cent of the time. How did the rat respond? It quickly realized that the left side was more rewarding. As a result, it always went to the left, which resulted in a sixty percent success rate. The rat didn't strive for perfection. It didn't search for a Unified Theory of the T-shaped maze, or try to decipher the disorder. Instead, it accepted the inherent uncertainty of the reward and learned to settle for the best possible alternative.

The experiment was then repeated with Yale undergraduates. Unlike the rat, their swollen brains stubbornly searched for the elusive pattern that determined the placement of the reward. They made predictions and then tried to learn from their prediction errors. The problem was that there was nothing to predict: the randomness was real. Because the students refused to settle for a 60 percent success rate, they ended up with a 52 percent success rate. Although most of the students were convinced they were making progress towards identifying the underlying algorithm, they were actually being outsmarted by a rat."

P64 HOW WE DECIDE (italics added)

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"Now, 2 patterns of market behavior happen on a regular basis:

1) the price breaks to new high's (or low's)

2) the price reverses from new high's (or low's)

They happen regardless of time frame (with the obvious limitations explained above)

They are phenomena that can be exploited without the fear if found out by others, that they might cease to exist." - H. Rearden

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1) Price within 20 pips of the daily low (ClLo < 20): This is OPPORTUNITY

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WHY ISN'T EVERYBODY DOING IT?

Most of you know I catch a lot of flak on my forums because SOME PEOPLE don't like the way I post.

One worn out argument that is used repeatedly is, "If this is so (simple, great, profitable, ), then why isn't everybody doing it?"

Simple answer is because SOYLENT GREEN is people!

We all know exercise is great, but how many actually exercise?

We all know smoking is bad, but how many do it anyway?

We all know which foods are bad for our health, but how many eat those foods?

We all know that we should save for our future and spend less than we earn but who does that?

The list is almost endless.

As long as there are people, there will always be some STUPID people and some smart people making STUPID decisions, where STUPID is defined as knowing better but acting otherwise.

Meanwhile, the RATS are still beating the Yale students.

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Postby nickohorny » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:17 pm

ok, so I just right click on chart 'refresh' and this is what it is? my ninjatrader shows same price trading.. so it's whats making me think is something wrong with the multipip chart..

Sorry, I appreciate it's not really your concern and a tech question like this shouldn't be bothering you with but it's just frustrating me that it isn't synching correctly lol grrrrr!

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Postby nickohorny » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:21 pm

Just looking at your HLC_PIP chart above yours shows GBPCHF at 107 in column ClLo compared to mine being below 20?! surely my indicator is off but I've not touched anything within the settings.

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Postby nickohorny » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:24 pm

lol figured it out! :oops:
Had the HLC pip chart setup on H1 instead of D1.. sorry about that! either way glad i've sorted it! was doing my head in.

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