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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby Don_xyZ » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:44 am

aliassmith wrote:
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prochargedmopar wrote:Eights and Space are definitely parlaying profits into.......

Betting/Gambling? Nah. LOL :mrgreen:

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Then it’s not and I’m wrong :)


I'm not to sure you are wrong. I thnk PRO looked up parlay as it pretains to Football betting.

So from what you explained parlay is a method similar to what I call risk gearing. ICT calls it speed of money. MO had a few versions, Space being one of them, pip cushion was another version.

Im also not sure why some people don't understand that Trading is betting/gambling. Its skill based like poker but still gambling. Its also the reason MO told me to read a poker book.

At the end of the day I prefer Trading over poker, sports betting. Or horses. Unless its deadhorses


Exactly, parlay is just the concept. Extract the good, dump the trash.
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby Don_xyZ » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:50 am

Upon completing successive profitable trades, the trading account might grow 9x, 21x, 45x or even more if the trading conditions allow. Growing 9x the original R is only 1x of successful parlay and 21x is only 2 successful parlays. Good enough? :)

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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:03 am

aliassmith wrote:
Don_xyZ wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:Eights and Space are definitely parlaying profits into.......

Betting/Gambling? Nah. LOL :mrgreen:

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Then it’s not and I’m wrong :)


I'm not to sure you are wrong. I thnk PRO looked up parlay as it pretains to Football betting.

So from what you explained parlay is a method similar to what I call risk gearing. ICT calls it speed of money. MO had a few versions, Space being one of them, pip cushion was another version.

Im also not sure why some people don't understand that Trading is betting/gambling. Its skill based like poker but still gambling. Its also the reason MO told me to read a poker book.

At the end of the day I prefer Trading over poker, sports betting. Or horses. Unless its deadhorses


I just google searched the word for it's definition and those are what popped up.
Yup, SpaceBalls, Eights, and many others, even 3 and flee. LOL

Is someone who counts cards gambling?
If so, why do they get banned for life?

I'd say MightyOne and ICT are not gamblers.
When I was a maint man for 25 yrs it wasn't a gamble when a repair was done and later failed.
When we made boxes in production we not only had bad boxes but also bad orders.
I wouldn't call it a gamble just because the company sometimes failed to produce perfect product.

Trading can be gambling the way I've played the game.
ALL ON RED! :mrgreen:
For successful traders I'd say NO.
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:10 am

Don_xyZ wrote:Upon completing successive profitable trades, the trading account might grow 9x, 21x, 45x or even more if the trading conditions allow. Growing 9x the original R is only 1x of successful parlay and 21x is only 2 successful parlays. Good enough? :)

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If you look at it, parlay is the anti-martingale.

Please ignore my ugly hand writing.


Stacking with held profit (that is not yet yours).
Plain and simple.

"Trade to targets(%'s), NOT for pips" MO
"I know it doesn't make sense, I tell you to risk little, then I tell you to risk everything :shock: " MO paraphrased.
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby aliassmith » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:46 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
Don_xyZ wrote:
Then it’s not and I’m wrong :)


I'm not to sure you are wrong. I thnk PRO looked up parlay as it pretains to Football betting.

So from what you explained parlay is a method similar to what I call risk gearing. ICT calls it speed of money. MO had a few versions, Space being one of them, pip cushion was another version.

Im also not sure why some people don't understand that Trading is betting/gambling. Its skill based like poker but still gambling. Its also the reason MO told me to read a poker book.

At the end of the day I prefer Trading over poker, sports betting. Or horses. Unless its deadhorses


I just google searched the word for it's definition and those are what popped up.
Yup, SpaceBalls, Eights, and many others, even 3 and flee. LOL

Is someone who counts cards gambling?
If so, why do they get banned for life?

I'd say MightyOne and ICT are not gamblers.
When I was a maint man for 25 yrs it wasn't a gamble when a repair was done and later failed.
When we made boxes in production we not only had bad boxes but also bad orders.
I wouldn't call it a gamble just because the company sometimes failed to produce perfect product.

Trading can be gambling the way I've played the game.
ALL ON RED! :mrgreen:
For successful traders I'd say NO.


Just because a poker player. Card counter, or trader is good doesn't mean its not gambling.

If it wasn't gambling why would you manage risk.

A slot machine might have a 90% payout. Since it has a higher probability of getting paid. Does that make it not gambling?

I'm risking $100 and have an expectation of making $100 75% of the time..
Apply that statement to football, soccer, a poker hand, a trade, dice roll.

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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby Don_xyZ » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:07 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
Don_xyZ wrote:
Then it’s not and I’m wrong :)


I'm not to sure you are wrong. I thnk PRO looked up parlay as it pretains to Football betting.

So from what you explained parlay is a method similar to what I call risk gearing. ICT calls it speed of money. MO had a few versions, Space being one of them, pip cushion was another version.

Im also not sure why some people don't understand that Trading is betting/gambling. Its skill based like poker but still gambling. Its also the reason MO told me to read a poker book.

At the end of the day I prefer Trading over poker, sports betting. Or horses. Unless its deadhorses


I just google searched the word for it's definition and those are what popped up.
Yup, SpaceBalls, Eights, and many others, even 3 and flee. LOL

Is someone who counts cards gambling?
If so, why do they get banned for life?

I'd say MightyOne and ICT are not gamblers.
When I was a maint man for 25 yrs it wasn't a gamble when a repair was done and later failed.
When we made boxes in production we not only had bad boxes but also bad orders.
I wouldn't call it a gamble just because the company sometimes failed to produce perfect product.

Trading can be gambling the way I've played the game.
ALL ON RED! :mrgreen:
For successful traders I'd say NO.


I never said MO and ICT are gamblers, pro. I think the concepts have similarities. Not the mechanisms. If you think otherwise, fine, I have no problem and I have no intention to change your mind either. I merely responded to a question and presented an idea that I used, nothing more. Upon getting a response from you, I only tried to explain further, nothing beyond that. Not trying to sell anything either. You use your style, and everyone else theirs :)
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby aliassmith » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:21 am

Don_xyZ wrote:Upon completing successive profitable trades, the trading account might grow 9x, 21x, 45x or even more if the trading conditions allow. Growing 9x the original R is only 1x of successful parlay and 21x is only 2 successful parlays. Good enough? :)

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If you look at it, parlay is the anti-martingale.

Please ignore my ugly hand writing.


Hard to read your scientist board there.

I would do something like this "Risk Gearing"
Risk .33% per trade. Make 3R
Risk .66% per trade. Make 3R or lose 3 trades
Risk 1% per trade. Make 3R+ or lose 3 trades
When I was more agressive!
Risk 2% per trade. Make 3R+ or lose 3 trades
Risk 4% per trade. Until the rest of the week or lose 3 trades
Hitting 40% to 75% a week was very common doing this.

Like Don_xyZ said it doesn't mean anything unless you win the trades.
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby Don_xyZ » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:33 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
Don_xyZ wrote:Upon completing successive profitable trades, the trading account might grow 9x, 21x, 45x or even more if the trading conditions allow. Growing 9x the original R is only 1x of successful parlay and 21x is only 2 successful parlays. Good enough? :)

Image
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If you look at it, parlay is the anti-martingale.

Please ignore my ugly hand writing.


Stacking with held profit (that is not yet yours).
Plain and simple.

"Trade to targets(%'s), NOT for pips" MO
"I know it doesn't make sense, I tell you to risk little, then I tell you to risk everything :shock: " MO paraphrased.


For me it's simple, any number in a trading account is up for the market to grab because we can still lose some of it in a trade. Unless you have 100% win rate forever. What you already have in your bank account is what's truly yours. Well, unless the government seizes it :lol: That is probably the reason why MO wrote this in Alias' thread Beats a "Dead Horse":

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I prefer something more like this:

$1000 into $10000: check for $8750
$1250 into $12500: check for $10937
$1560 into $15600: check for $10600 (67.95%)
$5000 into $50000: check for $43750 (87.5%)
$6250
$7800
$25000
etc
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby Don_xyZ » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:42 am

aliassmith wrote:
Don_xyZ wrote:Upon completing successive profitable trades, the trading account might grow 9x, 21x, 45x or even more if the trading conditions allow. Growing 9x the original R is only 1x of successful parlay and 21x is only 2 successful parlays. Good enough? :)

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If you look at it, parlay is the anti-martingale.

Please ignore my ugly hand writing.


Hard to read your scientist board there.

I would do something like this "Risk Gearing"
Risk .33% per trade. Make 3R
Risk .66% per trade. Make 3R or lose 3 trades
Risk 1% per trade. Make 3R+ or lose 3 trades
When I was more agressive!
Risk 2% per trade. Make 3R+ or lose 3 trades
Risk 4% per trade. Until the rest of the week or lose 3 trades
Hitting 40% to 75% a week was very common doing this.

Like Don_xyZ said it doesn't mean anything unless you win the trades.


Sorry, I put my comparing of S/D vs. FVG concept there also. And plus, my writing is bad by default and there's no cure for it :lol:

Yes, successive profitable trades are a must for this type of aggressive style to work.
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Re: Micro SUPPA, a trading journey?

Postby Don_xyZ » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:28 pm

Dow30 CFD
1 min chart is yummy now. Trades taken off M1 (but M1 chart would be too squeezed to show from ipad).

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(Look for the areas drawn on M5 chart above on M1 chart)

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