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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby salezyakuku » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:24 pm

aliassmith wrote:
paweldobkowski wrote:it would be cool if after all these years of helping and being so eloquent He would drop something ghetto like: "IM OUT THIS BITCH" and never came back. haha.

i mean, it would be sad but also defenitely something to ponder upon :wink:


I talked with him about not posting anymore. I didn't think he could do it for this long. Then again he is probably on here with an alt name. :lol:

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby elkin.fernandez » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:27 pm

MO Book would be great!
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby IgazI » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:00 pm

salezyakuku wrote::mrgreen: I am unnecessarily waiting for his book. #-o book


Probably :lol:

Everything is in the last few posts:

Dchappy's timing of high pivot break(ins?) with the trend line, which runs at roughly the same angle as the AO, to time trades from new highs (eg 1-2-3's) as price threatens to cross the AO zero line.

TRO's Wick-zone is also a favorite: some of the other methods "suffer" from the idea that a zone should be a fixed number of pips regardless of volatility and spread where as the WZ is created from that volatility and spread.

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"sell in an area of prior selling, buy in an area of prior buying":

You can see all of this in Dchappy's thread...
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But all of that is just the "art": the science is position sizing, stacking, and managing space.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby paweldobkowski » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:59 am

aliassmith wrote:
paweldobkowski wrote:it would be cool if after all these years of helping and being so eloquent He would drop something ghetto like: "IM OUT THIS BITCH" and never came back. haha.

i mean, it would be sad but also defenitely something to ponder upon :wink:


I talked with him about not posting anymore. I didn't think he could do it for this long. Then again he is probably on here with an alt name. :lol:


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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:03 pm

paweldobkowski wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
paweldobkowski wrote:it would be cool if after all these years of helping and being so eloquent He would drop something ghetto like: "IM OUT THIS BITCH" and never came back. haha.

i mean, it would be sad but also defenitely something to ponder upon :wink:


I talked with him about not posting anymore. I didn't think he could do it for this long. Then again he is probably on here with an alt name. :lol:


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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby thepark » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:27 pm

Hi guys

I have a question on using ATR to determine size of lines. If you base your line size on 'm30ATR x 2' and you make two lines when m30 atr is 15 pip and then later you lose when m30 atr is 25 pips, doesnt the changing ATR destabilise your money management by changing the size of your SL? the only factor on the amount that you risk losing should be the (10/8) line adjustment to your lot size, but if the ATR increases, that's an unwanted additional risk.

Do you just adjust the lot size down depending how much the ATR increases?

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mira » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:59 am

thepark wrote:Hi guys

I have a question on using ATR to determine size of lines. If you base your line size on 'm30ATR x 2' and you make two lines when m30 atr is 15 pip and then later you lose when m30 atr is 25 pips, doesnt the changing ATR destabilise your money management by changing the size of your SL? the only factor on the amount that you risk losing should be the (10/8) line adjustment to your lot size, but if the ATR increases, that's an unwanted additional risk.

Do you just adjust the lot size down depending how much the ATR increases?


Good question, I’m not using ATR based lines.. I’m sorry but I don’t know how to help you with this :(

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby aliassmith » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:29 am

thepark wrote:Hi guys

I have a question on using ATR to determine size of lines. If you base your line size on 'm30ATR x 2' and you make two lines when m30 atr is 15 pip and then later you lose when m30 atr is 25 pips, doesnt the changing ATR destabilise your money management by changing the size of your SL? the only factor on the amount that you risk losing should be the (10/8) line adjustment to your lot size, but if the ATR increases, that's an unwanted additional risk.

Do you just adjust the lot size down depending how much the ATR increases?


The purpose of the ATR is have data on volatility. Using ATR in this way you should adjust your lot size to manage risk versus volatility.
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby paweldobkowski » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:17 am

aliassmith wrote:
thepark wrote:Hi guys

I have a question (...)


The purpose of the ATR is have data on volatility. Using ATR in this way you should adjust your lot size to manage risk versus volatility.


That's correct.

But also you can trade ATR. One example would be price running into support/ resistance. You could be more keen to trade if we sit on an ATR "band". Also if you trade intraday you shouldn't expect a move greater than X if you are aware of your ATRs.

That being said I wouldn't recommend doing it :wink:
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mira » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:30 pm

paweldobkowski wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
thepark wrote:Hi guys

I have a question (...)


The purpose of the ATR is have data on volatility. Using ATR in this way you should adjust your lot size to manage risk versus volatility.


That's correct.

But also you can trade ATR. One example would be price running into support/ resistance. You could be more keen to trade if we sit on an ATR "band". Also if you trade intraday you shouldn't expect a move greater than X if you are aware of your ATRs.

That being said I wouldn't recommend doing it :wink:


Resizing the trade to manage risk vs volatility is sick BTW.
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