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Postby eudamonia » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:52 pm

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First, register as a TS customer. Then post your first post on the TS forums. You will get an answer in no time from the TS staff. No matter how retarded your question might be. You will get a slower response on your 10th post, you will get no response on your 100th post if by any chance you stick with Tradestation long enough so that you are ready to post your 3000 post, you are most probably a hot candidate for being banned

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Michal,

You're not kidding. I submitted a very straight forward question regarding alerts (they've changed in the latest version) and I've heard nothing from them for about a week. This is not a difficult question (or at least it shouldn't be). This is not the prompt response I used to get when I had less posts.

I'm very close to saying hasta la-bye-bye to TradeStation. In fact I just need to get BuySell zone and a couple other basic indicators converted and then it's game over for TS. Especially if I keep getting ignored! :x

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Postby Oli » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:54 pm

all TRO software users:

a lot of TS ELDs have corresponding eSignal EFS versions.

Meaning? EFS a JavaScript scritps. NeoTicker has JavaScript as one of its "internal" scripting languages. The implication is clear: conversion might not be so difficult as expected especially if instead of trying to go ELD->C# you go TRO EFS -> NeoTicker internal...

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Postby michal.kreslik » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:37 pm

eudamonia wrote:Michal,

You're not kidding. I submitted a very straight forward question regarding alerts (they've changed in the latest version) and I've heard nothing from them for about a week. This is not a difficult question (or at least it shouldn't be). This is not the prompt response I used to get when I had less posts.


Ed,

I know I'm not kidding :)

Me and a couple of other TS users that I've asked about this experienced the same:

(number of posts) * (TS attention to you) = constant

Michal

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Postby Harm » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:15 am

Hi Michal,

Thanks again for the NT4 offering. I'm just starting of with it to get familiar with it. I ran through the tutorials and it left me with mixed feelings. On one hand it is definitly the most open and flexible platform I know. But it is far from intuitive and has a steep learning curve. So far customer support has been great, i got a response to my e-mails within 2-3 hours.
I mainly got neoticker as an alternative to autotrading with the common bucket shops. I haven't decided on a scripting language yet, I'm fairly proficient in C++ so it's probably ging to be it.
So it will take me a few more weeks to get started but being a full time trader I have the time available.

Thanks again, much appreciated.

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Postby euro99 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:30 pm

I've been working quietly on a trading platform myself for the last few months and I have to agree with Michal it is not a simple task - not so much that the design is rocket science (it isn't), it's just the number of little things that need to be built, tested and kept up to scratch. Then there is the constant temptation to sell it or commercialise it and that detracts from trading which is what I want to do for the rest of my life.

Having said all that trade station doesn't cut the mustard. It is old code built on an old framework and it will almost always disappoint the serious user... how frustrating is it to climb a learning curve only to find that you fall off a cliff at the top of it?

If neoticker proves truly extensible and lets me run my own c# order management, risk tracking and testing applications alongside it then I will be switching over gladly.... i am evaluating it now and that is what I hope to find out. In the meantime I will be looking at Quant as well in the interests of making a sensible decision for the next ten years rather than another fast purchase of a platform.

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Postby michal.kreslik » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:08 pm

euro99 wrote:I've been working quietly on a trading platform myself for the last few months and I have to agree with Michal it is not a simple task - not so much that the design is rocket science (it isn't), it's just the number of little things that need to be built, tested and kept up to scratch. Then there is the constant temptation to sell it or commercialise it and that detracts from trading which is what I want to do for the rest of my life.

Having said all that trade station doesn't cut the mustard. It is old code built on an old framework and it will almost always disappoint the serious user... how frustrating is it to climb a learning curve only to find that you fall off a cliff at the top of it?

If neoticker proves truly extensible and lets me run my own c# order management, risk tracking and testing applications alongside it then I will be switching over gladly.... i am evaluating it now and that is what I hope to find out. In the meantime I will be looking at Quant as well in the interests of making a sensible decision for the next ten years rather than another fast purchase of a platform.

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Hello, Euro,

everyone should decide what's the best platform for him personally.

I just wanted to make a quick note: you can actually DEBUG your NeoTicker indicators/trading systems written in C#.NET directly from within MS Visual Studio 2005 using all the debugging tools (breakpoints, object watch, call stack etc. etc.) that are available for any other .NET project.

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Postby euro99 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:23 pm

Michal - do you have any first impressions of how Quant (for example) lines up against neoticker as a "next generation" platform? Are they at least comparable?

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Postby michal.kreslik » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:55 pm

I've looked into Smart Quant it and it looked very good. But that's almost a year ago now. I did my homework at that time and I did choose Neo.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, though. NeoTicker is not the only good platform around.

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Postby euro99 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:00 pm

I like the look of Smartquant (or openQuant at least) - in so far as it is a development environment.

But I have a hunch that it is the openness of neoticker which will win hands down.

In the meantime - how does neoticker match up against radarscreen for signalling possible setups? Can you use multiple time frames, tick data etc. and output the results for multiple stocks in a dynamic grid?

If this has been asked elsewhere my apologies in advance.

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Postby michal.kreslik » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:42 pm

Hello, Peter,

I am not using RadarScreen, but you can set up NeoTicker in a very similar way. And if the inbuilt functionality doesn't give you enough flexibility, you can write your own signalling components in C# and hook them up to NeoTicker.

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