TheRumpledOne switching to NeoTicker? New group discount

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Postby michal.kreslik » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:56 am

OK, you posted the question there 7 hours before, that's not such a big deal if no one has replied yet (well, someone has just replied to it :).

Anyway, which exact symbol are you trying to display? Chances are the symbol you are attempting to load is not available at that broker.

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Postby Patch » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:41 am

michal.kreslik wrote:
eudamonia wrote:Jeff,

My advice is to escape TradeStation before you learn too much. For myself I've got the unpleasant task of having to unlearn a lot of bad habits and convert all of my various indicators, strategies and what not over to NT.

Just think, you won't have to go through any of that if you switch early :)

Edward


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Hard advice. I am sure that you and Michal and TRO have looked at Multichars. My question is why not switch to Multicharts? Do you think they are in violation of a TS copyright?

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Postby michal.kreslik » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:13 am

flash9911 wrote:Hard advice. I am sure that you and Michal and TRO have looked at Multichars. My question is why not switch to Multicharts? Do you think they are in violation of a TS copyright?


There are a couple of reasons. Firstly TS Support seems to be related to Tradestation (that's probably why they are perhaps the only manufacturer that supports EasyLanguage outside of Tradestation).

Zero tick cache management capabilities (just like in Tradestation). You don't have a control over the data in your cache.

But most importantly, their programming language is still a toy language just like EasyLanguage. It wouldn't be an "upgrade", but rather a "samegrade".

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Postby eudamonia » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:43 pm

flash9911 wrote:
Hard advice. I am sure that you and Michal and TRO have looked at Multichars. My question is why not switch to Multicharts? Do you think they are in violation of a TS copyright?


Actually, I've spoken with TS Support and according to them they are not affiliated with TradeStation. Also, although their language is substantially similar to Easy Language they are out of Russia and thus it is unlikely that TradeStation will go after them (i.e. international patent and copyrighting laws are not very stringent in Russia from what I understand). So legally I am not concerned. Morally, well I leave that up to you, but for me its a non issue.

Why? The main reason that its a non issue for me is for the same reasons that Michal sited. I need good tick data that is timesamped down to the smallest time frame resolution possible. This allows the ability to utilize things that TradeStation and Multicharts will never have by design, such as tick precise indicators, constant range bars (yea!), global variables, easy access to outside languages such as dll or any of the .NET family, reliable autotrading (what a concept) including autotrading for Forex, etc.

If you don't need these features its possible to live the Multicharts, but you have to ask yourself why? With Neo you have the choice of leasing or buying (I recommend buying), but if you decide to lease your cost is $90 per month instead of $50 per month for Multicharts. Sure it's more expensive but in my mind at least, its more than 2X as good :lol:

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Postby michal.kreslik » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:49 pm

alpha24seven wrote:////OK, you posted the question there 7 hours before, that's not such a big deal if no one has replied yet (well, someone has just replied to it /////


Thanks for the push Michal. BTW my E-mails were much earlier and I'm quite sure I posted on the forums the day before but all of that is irrelevant. Thanks again.


FXCM data feed is working ok with my NeoTicker. I've just checked that out.

Are you logged in to the FXCM order interface? Anyway, I guess it's better to solve this off-topic discussion directly at the NT forum.

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Postby 4x=0 » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:10 pm

TheRumpledOne wrote:Someone needs to get back to trading!!

LMAO!!


I'm a man of many trades TROseph -- that 5 minute shop-job while wrought with satire was well worth the tangential final product :lol:

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WaveRunner offer vs Kreslik.com

Postby tradecrazy » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:47 pm

I'm interested in what the deal actually is. Waverunner is also offering a deal on their add-on software if you buy NeoTicker through them. If you know about it, can you explain the difference of theirs to the one offered here?

Thnx,

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Re: WaveRunner offer vs Kreslik.com

Postby michal.kreslik » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:17 am

tradecrazy wrote:I'm interested in what the deal actually is. Waverunner is also offering a deal on their add-on software if you buy NeoTicker through them. If you know about it, can you explain the difference of theirs to the one offered here?

Thnx,

mlt


Hello, Mark,

first of all, I'm not a reseller of NeoTicker nor do I get anything if you buy NeoTicker thru kreslik.com discount. I will be happy if you get NeoTicker wherever you deem is the best for you!

I have just looked into the WaveRunner NeoTicker offer and they say that you pay $1297 for NeoTicker with them and you get a free quarterly license to WaveRunner RT in that bundle.

This deal is great if you are getting ready to buy the WaveRunner RT quarterly license for $525 in any case. That way you save 128 bucks.

But if you are not interested in the WaverRunner RT quarterly license (which I guess is a littlebit overpriced anyway), then you pay extra 397 bucks compared to the kreslik.com discounted price.


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Postby Oli » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:27 am

I have been trialling NeoTicker with my eSignal feed over the last week and think that it sucks...

I have used many many platforms (AmiBroker, MetaStock, Multicharts, eSignal and Invester R/T) and Neoticker is the least intuitive and most restrictive I have used to date.

Just compare the number of viewable candles you can squeeze into anytime frame - even on that simple test Neoticker falls behind...

good luck to TRO and the rest on Neoticker - but I would recommend everyone think long and hard before making that type of commitment...

A better discount offer would be money off the MONTHLY price - maybe then some longer term evaluations could occur - but I am satisfied that NeoTciker is a no goer....

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