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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:39 pm

Mira wrote:Hi MO!

I don't know if I lost my view about H-lines :(

Light became darkness.


I can't see the difference between these pics:

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What am I missing?
Thank you much for you patience.


Mira I have been loving your posts and charts. I did a quick mark up (not H lines) but just what I see and think might help. You have given me new idea's and things to look at and have reinforced old idea's, so keeping posting. The h1 chart is just horz lines, extremes, closes, S/R, 123's (price finds a new high/low, gets rejected, returns, then off the other way again HUGELY IMPORTANT). Then look where that last 15 angle drawn at the bottom would have supported price (this weeks low).

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Then the daily show how you roll your small chart trade into a large chart idea

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby tom7ak » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:37 pm

MO, why does the market do what it does? If i remember right - its purpose is to zero the profit in all TFs. Why? Has it always been like this? Is stock market different in this respect? I dont mean technicals or price action here.
you got 2 slow it down
and then u pick it up - PF
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:41 pm

MightyOne wrote:
elkin.fernandez wrote:MightyOne but you ever say that FIRST of all POSITION. I put my POSITION an EXTREME but now in EIGHTS you say that it is not important. That confuse me because I dont know where my position put. Because of that is that I ask you about BIAS LINES for knowing where I must put my position.


In the past I broke open the shells and said "be free little birds" and the chicks all died.

Everything has been simplified in EIGHTS and the chicks stay in the shell until they outgrow it.

If you start fresh from EIGHTS then you will outgrow me, you will be your own MO.


Not all those chicks died. A lot turned into birds of prey and they feast on the markets.

All are lives we are taught hard, concrete facts with someone standing over are shoulders telling us if we are right or wrong. Then we are introduced into trading. Nothing is fact and there are a million ways to skin this cat. Then add in that your learning on your own and that teacher isn't there to tell you why said idea worked in trade one, but not trade two. Add in greed and fear and you have the perfect reciepe for disaster.

Now try learning while someone is standing there to offer advice and expierence. Make sure you are truly following your trading plan. And its a mullion dollar account so when you only make a measly 1% a month ,guess what that is $10,000. While not exact, this is close to how I learned. It also builds your confidence so you always place a trade when it is presented and when you do take a loss you just shake it off.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:32 pm

Mira wrote:Hi MightyOne! :D

I drew this pic to sum up what I learned about the two outcomes of a pattern.

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Everything is about close: is price closing under or over?

I tried to find the truth looking for a confirmation at the pullback on a lower tf, but the pattern has the SAME dual nature ( :oops: )
Then I thought to look if price is failing to close over something but "sometimes" wicks are bodies and bodies are wicks.

So you told me to focus on the big picture and it made sense.
High probability entries at high probability prices.
Would you suggest to look for patterns and BOs on bigger charts and to carry informations on lower periods or a better way to find overbought and oversold conditions and then looking for patterns and BO's?


Anyway, THANK YOU for all the knowledge you shared (and for all the efforts to make me understand something :lol: )


Here ya go Mira. I showed possible bullish reason and entry on smaller timeframe earlier, show here is bearish and it incorporates your patterns in it to.

HH= Higher high, HL= Higher lower and such. CU= Close under
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:47 am

Setup on GU daily
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:42 am

Mr. Hyde wrote:Magical 15 angles still working since DEcenber

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Look how the angles on the 4 hr chart mark and run right to where the weekly highs and lows are. Hum. So you could have sold yestday and maybe have sold the weekly high or could have bought today and bought the low. Lets see how this ends :D

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Angles are amazing for helping decide if you should take a trade and how to turn it into possibly hundreds of pips to. Some updated charts
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:43 am

tom7ak wrote:MO, why does the market do what it does? If i remember right - its purpose is to zero the profit in all TFs. Why? Has it always been like this? Is stock market different in this respect? I dont mean technicals or price action here.


It is the same in stocks, futures, forex, and even cryptocurrency.

If you leaf through the charts in Ted Warren's book then you will see the same patterns, breakouts, & zeroing of profit.

The reason is simple, price is going up and you're not invited :lol:

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:04 am

MightyOne wrote:
elkin.fernandez wrote:MightyOne but you ever say that FIRST of all POSITION. I put my POSITION an EXTREME but now in EIGHTS you say that it is not important. That confuse me because I dont know where my position put. Because of that is that I ask you about BIAS LINES for knowing where I must put my position.


In the past I broke open the shells and said "be free little birds" and the chicks all died.

Everything has been simplified in EIGHTS and the chicks stay in the shell until they outgrow it.

If you start fresh from EIGHTS then you will outgrow me, you will be your own MO.


So lets say one of those chicks survived and in his eyes had a basic understanding of M.O. Trading for Dummies idea's. He is profitable in the long run but is not as consistent as he would like. I have tried many of your different MM style but cant seem to find one that I feel is best for me. What seems to hurt me the most are trades Im sure of and put OPM towards take a large chunk of my profit and then the "no way this trade should work" so I enter with min size are always my best.

For example in my eyes I thought I had a perfect 123 setup. It broke the trendline, had DIV, and was at an angle (median line of a pitchfork so I did know it could shoot through the opposite way). So I entered on the TTE, break of the 2 point and a BZ trade. I could have gotten out at the 2 point as Ross recommends on a TTE, but I let greed and my need to "catch this trade" get me. Then trades like a HTF extreme or a weekly/monthly horz line with no good reason to enter except were price is at, turns on a dime and shoots hundreds of pips in my trade direction.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby Mr. Hyde » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:53 am

Mira wrote:The contradiction in the Truth gave me the opportunity to think and to SEE.

The brain is weak in front of the chart illusion, so is easy to pick a top and a bottom and to say "price crossed a line".
The problem is that I've been trading live in these days and I saw how I CAN'T see the future (thanks MO, you was right again :lol: ). I didn't know if price was unable to close over something until price closed over something, and when a perfect "demand setup" was taken off it became a perfect "supply setup".

I know I still have a long way to go but I had a little light bulb: a pattern could be misunderstood because of its dual nature but a breakout is unequivocal.
(aka "Body In Direction of Profit")

It's still a bit mechanic for now but I'm drawing 'supply' (red line), 'demand' (green line) and BO (yellow box).

MightyOne wrote:
Body in the direction of profit, wick in the direction of loss; if price is closing higher than something
then it is probably not going lower. -MO



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I always could have two outcomes but there will be just One.

Still studying, Thank you MO! :D


I know its after the fact, but here is how I look at my trades, but using your pattern (the red line). After I have a trade idea I start just drawing lines where price may react (opens, closes, candle color changes, zlines, S/R, extremes, momo bars, mzone) a lot of those are pretty much the samething but I just listed it all to make sure.
Then I watch price. Does it close beyond a line, does it fail, does it get rejected, supported/resisted. Does it BO then BI. Switch to lower and higher timeframes, what is it doing there.

And yes I just bought EJ at 121.75. Looking to exit at 122.50-123. But will exit sooner if I don't like something, since its Friday and has already ran up pretty good
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:10 am

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So lets say one of those chicks survived and in his eyes had a basic understanding of M.O. Trading for Dummies idea's. He is profitable in the long run but is not as consistent as he would like. I have tried many of your different MM style but cant seem to find one that I feel is best for me. What seems to hurt me the most are trades Im sure of and put OPM towards take a large chunk of my profit and then the "no way this trade should work" so I enter with min size are always my best.

For example in my eyes I thought I had a perfect 123 setup. It broke the trendline, had DIV, and was at an angle (median line of a pitchfork so I did know it could shoot through the opposite way). So I entered on the TTE, break of the 2 point and a BZ trade. I could have gotten out at the 2 point as Ross recommends on a TTE, but I let greed and my need to "catch this trade" get me. Then trades like a HTF extreme or a weekly/monthly horz line with no good reason to enter except were price is at, turns on a dime and shoots hundreds of pips in my trade direction.

Thanks


It is the idea of space as a rectangle that robs the chicks of their strength; it is so much easier to track and manage space when you think of it as x number of lines.

You may find it to your liking to start with trades on the H4 and then drop back to the H1 (doubling your current position size) to catch the continuation or reversal. Once you have gained both size and space then you can return to H4/D1, for longer moves, and then think about catching the weekly/monthly chart in a pattern and riding that large chart breakout with SIZE.

There is no law that says that you have to continue on the same chart in which you initiated a trade; one pair might be making better V's on the small charts, another might have a beautiful H4 or daily chart, and price might be returning to a pattern in any number of weekly or monthly charts.

I recommend that you increase your size by a 3rd and only double if price is running away from your stop on the larger charts.
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There are also a number of old school strategies (catching/cutting) that you are probably well aware of:
1) first exit is after 3 legs down, it has a strong finish as if price were going to fall into a bottomless pit.
2) we catch price (re-enter as price rises into a risk-box) at the pattern breakin and double up simply because we can.
3) exit as price enters the pattern of the first rise, align the middle of our risk box with the prev. stop, and then double as price re-enters the pattern and also our risk box.
4) you don't always have to double, you can simply re-enter and place your stop at the prev. high.

Combined with scaling in, you can reach max size scary fast.

Unless you were born with abnormally large balls, you should probably only do this on the H4+ charts.

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