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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:25 pm

Maybe this will be of help TheCrumpledOne:

Step 1:
I was flashing through monthly charts when I saw this MN chart that had already made a strong move
a few months ago and noticed that it had been delivering low wicks.

The current candles close was resting peacefully below 00, on the MN chart anyway, and I had the idea that
the current price would move up a line or two.

Step 2:
Looking at the 5 minute (1.2% line spacing) I noticed that price was above the daily open line ("something").

Step 3:
I defined a two-wide area where the initial order (1/3 size) must be triggered.
(price can fall up to 9 lines at this point in time)

Step 4:
Pull the trigger & decide if I am going to commit (keep pulling the trigger) or abandon.
(price can fall 4.5 to 3 lines).

Step 5:
Every decision to hold is a decision to buy more (same size throughout).
(going for 1 line on the MN chart...more if I am feeling lucky)

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Postby Sacrophage » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:38 pm

MightyOne wrote:Solution to outside bars? Switch periods! :lol:


I prefer to use an offset. Once you've taken your first loss from this Sin wave action, offset your normal bias +/- X % or X pts. Can't be whipped by the same action again. Trick: +/- X can actually be randomized...

Other solution is to change SL and adjust size accordingly. Only issue with this is Spread/SL % change could be significant if trading small lines, so take into account in calcs.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby TheCrumpledOne » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:15 pm

Hi MO,

appreciate the assistance. :)
I've tried setting up what you see in your charts (see picture 1)

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I am not used to line bars so I switched to candlesticks to see the wicks on the monthly timeframe (see picture 2)

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I saw a strong move down a few months ago, I hope we are talking about the same strong move (see picture 3)

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On the monthly chart, I did not see any candle close below 00 line. (see picture 4)

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Step 2:

I looked at both our M5 chart and noticed that the numbering is different, e.g. your daily open is at line 09, and my daily open line is between 12 and 15, what settings should be used on my EIGHTS indicator? (see picture 5)

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Q2: In this case the "something" is the daily open line, can "something" refer to others beside daily open line?

Step 3:

I'll be using your picture since there's difference in the lines on mine.
I defined a two-wide area where my initial order is 0.22 lot.

I've used an example of a $3000 account and my risk is 1%= $30
1/3 of $30 is $10. from line 15 (entry) to 00 is about 15x3pips(per line)= 45pips.
Lot size $10/45 pips = 0.22lot.

(please see picture) Please advise me if I am wrong...

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Q3 In this case, should my stop loss be at the daily open line or the 00 line?

Thanks again MO for your guidance.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby salezyakuku » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:45 am

TheCrumpledOne wrote:2) Clarification: "Weekly median range" here means the current week's range? or is it the last week range? or the average of weekly bars for the past month?

Clarification:
Average is the sum of a list of numbers divided by the number of numbers in the list.
Median is the value separating the higher half of a data from the lower half.

In Eights we use:
MightyOne wrote:The weekly range is the 4th smallest range of the last 6 weeks

or median from 3 weeks after we remove 2 smallest and 1 biggest of the last 6 weeks :).

TheCrumpledOne wrote:I looked at both our M5 chart and noticed that the numbering is different, e.g. your daily open is at line 09, and my daily open line is between 12 and 15, what settings should be used on my EIGHTS indicator? (see picture 5)

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby TheCrumpledOne » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:37 pm

Hello salezyakuku,

appreciate your contributions. :)

and thank you for your clarifications.
so, if below are the weekly pips from high to low:

Week 1: 200pips
Week 2: 250pips
Week 3: 320pips
Week 4: 350pips
Week 5: 400pips
Week 6: 500pips

4th smallest range is 350pips, and that is my weekly median range.

And for your example, after we remove 2 smallest (Week 1 & Week 2 above) and 1 biggest (Week 6), we are left with:

Week 3: 320pips
Week 4: 350pips
Week 5: 400pips

So, it is the average of these 3 (320+350+400 divide by 3= 356 pips) or take the middle value (350pips)?

thank you, I've downloaded and applied the latest version 13a (see picture)

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I can see the comments is very similar (see pic below). that's good. I will give more replies soon. Thanks again.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby salezyakuku » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:46 pm

TheCrumpledOne wrote:Hello salezyakuku,

appreciate your contributions. :)

and thank you for your clarifications.
so, if below are the weekly pips from high to low:

Week 1: 200pips
Week 2: 250pips
Week 3: 320pips
Week 4: 350pips
Week 5: 400pips
Week 6: 500pips

4th smallest range is 350pips, and that is my weekly median range.

And for your example, after we remove 2 smallest (Week 1 & Week 2 above) and 1 biggest (Week 6), we are left with:

Week 3: 320pips
Week 4: 350pips
Week 5: 400pips

So, it is the average of these 3 (320+350+400 divide by 3= 356 pips) or take the middle value (350pips)?

thank you, I've downloaded and applied the latest version 13a (see picture)

thanks salezyakuku.png

I can see the comments is very similar (see pic below). that's good. I will give more replies soon. Thanks again.

EN EIGHTS indicator setup.png

The weekly range is the 4th smallest range of the last 6 weeks = median from 3 weeks after we remove 2 smallest and 1 biggest of the last 6 weeks.
350pips is correct value (median). It is calculated in Eights indi (Range in comments).
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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby MightyOne » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:47 pm

TheCrumpledOne

) The current candles "close" is the current price.

) Risk is always a dollar amount.
If your lines are 1.2% apart and your entry is 1/3 size then your space triples (3.6%).
Push the button again and your space is 1/2 of 3.6 (1.8%)
Push the button a third time and your space is 2/3 of 1.8% (1.2%)

So, when you scale in, you are basically entering on an H4, dropping to an M5, and then landing on an M1.
Look at it as the importance that price goes up now rather than a little later.

Once you reach 3/3 then you lose very little space moving from 3 to 4 to 5 to 6, 6 to 8 to 10 to 12, etc.

) "two-wide" is a distance of two lines...it makes more sense if you are looking at one of these 2 line reversal charts:
It's a bit messy because I wasn't planning on posting it :lol: |-6 -7 -8|is the area that I marked on the bar chart.

How did I select the area? It is simply the two areas above the low of -9.
-9 to -7 is the reversal from the low and you have as high as -6 to go long.
There was a breakout at -5 and price went as high as -4 so our new entry area is |-5 -6 -7|.

You can use the same method for adding size or you can use the breakout.

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) Trust the bias.
If you are experienced and you see something different then do something different.

) "Something" is anything.
The important part is that you use it once you define it.

The only thing that is "wrong" is moving your "something" up and down in a small area while trying to interpret "above" and "below";
If your something is the daily open and you move the line to the low pivot breakout then only move the line down for the rest of the day.

) Did I miss something?
If you needed a hammer then you would reach for it without thinking & if you didn't need it then you wouldn't even think about the tool; the same with technical analysis.

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby TheRumpledOne » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:36 pm

I read this over and over and still DO NOT GET IT! My brain hurts.

Maybe it is like one of those pictures where only some people can see "it".
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby John S. » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:53 pm

TheRumpledOne wrote:I read this over and over and still DO NOT GET IT! My brain hurts.

Maybe it is like one of those pictures where only some people can see "it".


I'd comment, but I've already been threatened multiple times with being banned if I say anything in this thread that is in the least way considered being in disagreement with the thread author, so I won't......even though TRO is doing so here and does so on a fairly regular basis. LMAO :lol:

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Re: The ideas that I trade by:

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:19 am

John S. wrote:
TheRumpledOne wrote:I read this over and over and still DO NOT GET IT! My brain hurts.

Maybe it is like one of those pictures where only some people can see "it".


I'd comment, but I've already been threatened multiple times with being banned if I say anything in this thread that is in the least way considered being in disagreement with the thread author, so I won't......even though TRO is doing so here and does so on a fairly regular basis. LMAO :lol:


TRO stated that he could not see IT.
TRO did not say what the author says is not true.
TRO did not say others could not see IT.
OR that the IDEAS being presented here were invalid just because he could not understand some or most of them.

Plenty of room on bidchpips and fluckdfactory for a John S.
Or are you banned already? lol

BTW, this IS TROs site and home.
Good luck stepping on his toes. ;-)
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