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Postby prochargedmopar » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:06 am

pierre23

EXACTLY what I see.
I was surprised though that price made it all the way back down to the bottom support.......

Had to go so couldn't trade it.
Considering my history I would have came out with maybe 5-10 pips, or maybe even lost.

I see what you see believe me.
Easy cheesy, but can't get past the first few pips of the entry.
Hmmmmmmmmm
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Postby pierre23 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:29 am

prochargedmopar wrote:pierre23

EXACTLY what I see.
I was surprised though that price made it all the way back down to the bottom support.......

Had to go so couldn't trade it.
Considering my history I would have came out with maybe 5-10 pips, or maybe even lost.

I see what you see believe me.
Easy cheesy, but can't get past the first few pips of the entry.
Hmmmmmmmmm


What I see and you see there I can guarantee that all the others see the same thing, es/pip, mo, zap etc

If we can see it and you can see it and we can trade it then YOU can trade it too. Don't be suprised that it came back to support, just trade what you see! :wink:

If you have time, pull up a blank chart and start drawing lines and label them, where you think the 4H ZL is, 1H, 30M and post it so we can have a look. I don't want to see any indicators on it, just a couple of lines =)

I think scalping the 1min tf for so long has made you jumpy when trading the higher timeframes, when you see it go against you a little you just want out and you're scared to hold

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Postby monolisa » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:59 am

Pro, you need to work on you "trigger happy" finger. If necessary you might need a plaster around it to keep it still :)

Just remember one word: DISCIPLINE.

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Postby MightyOne » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:06 am

prochargedmopar wrote:pierre23

EXACTLY what I see.
I was surprised though that price made it all the way back down to the bottom support.......

Had to go so couldn't trade it.
Considering my history I would have came out with maybe 5-10 pips, or maybe even lost.

I see what you see believe me.
Easy cheesy, but can't get past the first few pips of the entry.
Hmmmmmmmmm


1. Hold for no less than 10 pips

2. If you are up ten then you have 10 seconds to decide if you are exiting or going for 20 pips.

3. If the time runs out then you are going for 20 pips.

4. If you stay for 20 then you must stay until +20 is reached or take a loss

5. After you reach +20 then you can do whatever you want.

6. If you exited for 10 pips on the last 4 profitable trades then you are staying for 30 pips on your next trade.

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Z Lines

Postby brettnchrism » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:58 am

Could someone please direct me to a thread or a pdf that explains Z-Lines?

I trade with Pro but don't understand entries and exits. Of course I don't trade M1 but not opposed to trade M5 and above.

Maybe I can be of some assistance.

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Postby monolisa » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:43 am

Hi brettnchrism,

This is the NLA thread http://kreslik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1373. The zline method was discussed from page 132 (note MightyOne's posts and corresponding responses from es/pip, razorboy, etc).

This is the archive of the NLA thread kindly compiled by one of our forumites zapzinig http://kreslik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2005

Try to read the whole thread if possible, and repeat a few times. It might take you some time to absorb the info but it's really worthwhile.

Good Trading.

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Postby noone22 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:48 am

pierre23 wrote:What I see and you see there I can guarantee that all the others see the same thing, es/pip, mo, zap etc


Interesting & brave observation.
Wrong, however, because I cannot see this.
Maybe because I don't know what is es/pip or mo or zap or etc.

Never mind.

By the time this thread would overtake big NLA one
by qty of posts and views, not only pro, but myself
would be able not only to see, but also trade all these ZLs and zaps.

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Postby prochargedmopar » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:42 pm

Gonna work on all this stuff.
Hmmmmm
I think a profit target of 10 would be good to start with live account.
Hmmmmm

Today
+24.3

I stopped while I was ahead...sat there looking at z-lines for 3.5 hrs longer.... watching them rack in pips.



EUR/JPY 20 B 133.822 133.973 15.1 0.00 7/30/2009 09:47 7/30/2009 09:50
EUR/JPY 20 B 134.066 133.964 -10.2 0.00 7/30/2009 09:44 7/30/2009 09:45
EUR/JPY 20 S 134.447 134.386 6.1 0.00 7/30/2009 09:08 7/30/2009 09:20
EUR/JPY 20 S 134.497 134.442 5.5 0.00 7/30/2009 09:01 7/30/2009 09:02
EUR/JPY 20 S 134.255 134.335 -8 0.00 7/30/2009 08:52 7/30/2009 08:53
EUR/JPY 20 B 133.745 133.771 2.6 0.00 7/30/2009 07:40 7/30/2009 07:44
GBP/USD 20 S 1.64838 1.64823 1.5 0.00 7/30/2009 03:25 7/30/2009 03:26
EUR/JPY 20 B 133.762 133.769 0.7 0.00 7/30/2009 03:15 7/30/2009 03:17
EUR/JPY 20 S 133.865 133.826 3.9 0.00 7/30/2009 03:00 7/30/2009 03:03
EUR/JPY 20 S 133.235 133.227 0.8 0.00 7/29/2009 19:52 7/29/2009 19:57
EUR/JPY 20 B 133.319 133.322 0.3 0.00 7/29/2009 19:42 7/29/2009 19:44
EUR/JPY 20 B 133.317 133.343 2.6 0.00 7/29/2009 19:19 7/29/2009 19:30
EUR/JPY 20 B 133.309 133.343 3.4 0.00 7/29/2009 19:25 7/29/2009 19:30
260 24.3 0.00
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Postby prochargedmopar » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:49 pm

pierre23 wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:pierre23

EXACTLY what I see.
I was surprised though that price made it all the way back down to the bottom support.......

Had to go so couldn't trade it.
Considering my history I would have came out with maybe 5-10 pips, or maybe even lost.

I see what you see believe me.
Easy cheesy, but can't get past the first few pips of the entry.
Hmmmmmmmmm


What I see and you see there I can guarantee that all the others see the same thing, es/pip, mo, zap etc

If we can see it and you can see it and we can trade it then YOU can trade it too. Don't be suprised that it came back to support, just trade what you see! :wink:

If you have time, pull up a blank chart and start drawing lines and label them, where you think the 4H ZL is, 1H, 30M and post it so we can have a look. I don't want to see any indicators on it, just a couple of lines =)

I think scalping the 1min tf for so long has made you jumpy when trading the higher timeframes, when you see it go against you a little you just want out and you're scared to hold


After watching charts today I am not surprised by the big drop and zeroing out of the traders. Happened today again.
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Postby prochargedmopar » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:57 pm

noone22 wrote:
pierre23 wrote:What I see and you see there I can guarantee that all the others see the same thing, es/pip, mo, zap etc


Interesting & brave observation.
Wrong, however, because I cannot see this.
Maybe because I don't know what is es/pip or mo or zap or etc.

Never mind.

By the time this thread would overtake big NLA one
by qty of posts and views, not only pro, but myself
would be able not only to see, but also trade all these ZLs and zaps.


Hang in there dude.
Keep looking at these guys charts and their entries and exits.
All of a sudden it will click.

Zaps' charts opened my eyes big time to the possibilities.
I understood the concept of momo and the mighty zone but this gave TARGETS for exits which will help me greatly.
Also, gave me more options to enter with tighter stops.......me likes tight stops.
I just gotta loosen up my TP's.
hehehe
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