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Postby razorboy » Thu May 28, 2009 9:16 pm

In pro's defense........he suggested that a while ago........

MightyOne wrote:Start fading your self ;) because if you made money as fast as you lost it you would be a Forex god!

prochargedmopar wrote:Oh yeah.
Last 30 trades of the day.
Enjoy.

11502882 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.340 134.398 5.8 11.97 0.00 5/28/2009 05:20 5/28/2009 05:21
11502883 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.350 134.398 4.8 9.90 0.00 5/28/2009 05:20 5/28/2009 05:21
11502837 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.278 134.335 -5.7 -11.77 0.00 5/28/2009 05:19 5/28/2009 05:20
11502788 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.334 134.313 -2.1 -4.34 0.00 5/28/2009 05:17 5/28/2009 05:18
11502261 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.151 134.303 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11502256 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.148 134.300 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11502257 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.153 134.305 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11501743 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.062 134.214 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:41 5/28/2009 05:15
11501690 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.043 134.195 -15.2 -31.40 0.00 5/28/2009 04:39 5/28/2009 05:15
11501639 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.003 134.155 -15.2 -31.42 0.00 5/28/2009 04:36 5/28/2009 04:58
11501635 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.003 134.155 -15.2 -31.42 0.00 5/28/2009 04:36 5/28/2009 04:58
11501640 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.002 134.154 -15.2 -31.42 0.00 5/28/2009 04:36 5/28/2009 04:58
11501638 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.000 134.152 -15.2 -31.42 0.00 5/28/2009 04:36 5/28/2009 04:58
11500955 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.165 134.013 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:10 5/28/2009 04:36
11500953 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.165 134.013 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:10 5/28/2009 04:36
11500959 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.170 134.018 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:10 5/28/2009 04:36
11500957 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.170 134.018 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:10 5/28/2009 04:36
11500963 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.175 134.023 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:10 5/28/2009 04:35
11500705 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.018 134.160 -14.2 -29.36 0.00 5/28/2009 04:04 5/28/2009 04:10
11500708 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.008 134.160 -15.2 -31.43 0.00 5/28/2009 04:04 5/28/2009 04:10
11500298 EUR/JPY 20 B 134.110 134.018 -9.2 -19.05 0.00 5/28/2009 03:55 5/28/2009 04:04
11498948 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.004 133.885 11.9 24.58 0.00 5/28/2009 03:12 5/28/2009 03:17
11499004 EUR/JPY 20 S 133.957 133.885 7.2 14.87 0.00 5/28/2009 03:14 5/28/2009 03:17
11498401 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.183 134.039 14.4 29.70 0.00 5/28/2009 03:00 5/28/2009 03:05
11496844 GBP/USD 20 B 1.59488 1.59505 1.7 3.40 0.00 5/28/2009 02:17 5/28/2009 02:20
11496689 EUR/JPY 20 B 133.594 133.598 0.4 0.83 0.00 5/28/2009 02:11 5/28/2009 02:16
11496350 EUR/JPY 20 B 133.469 133.661 19.2 39.73 0.00 5/28/2009 02:04 5/28/2009 02:05
11496405 EUR/JPY 20 B 133.595 133.661 6.6 13.66 0.00 5/28/2009 02:05 5/28/2009 02:05
11495974 EUR/JPY 20 S 133.392 133.385 0.7 1.45 0.00 5/28/2009 01:49 5/28/2009 01:58
11495973 EUR/JPY 20 S 133.393 133.385 0.8 1.66 0.00 5/28/2009 01:49 5/28/2009 01:58
Total 600 -185.7 -383.76 0.00
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Postby aVi » Fri May 29, 2009 7:16 am

prochargedmopar wrote:-281.5 pips
-$562.68


Now 603 pips to B/E

Account drained to $486.
It was up to $1340

Until death eh?
OK.



:shock: OUCH! :(

Good luck man, I hope things turn around for you.
Wake up Mr. Green...

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Postby noone22 » Fri May 29, 2009 8:14 am

prochargedmopar wrote:11502261 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.151 134.303 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11502256 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.148 134.300 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11502257 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.153 134.305 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11501743 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.062 134.214 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:41 5/28/2009 05:15
11501690 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.043 134.195 -15.2 -31.40 0.00 5/28/2009 04:39 5/28/2009 05:15


pro,
You were selling and selling and selling,
despite the fact market was rising.
What were you trying to prove and to whom?
Market doesn't care about our feelings, you know.

Don't you have a rule in your trading plan:
"After N loses - finish trading for the day".
N usually is 3, 5 at maximum.

Profitable trade is not like run-away last train -
if you missed one, next trade - is just around the corner.

Having had N loses in the row - stop traing for a day,
it was not your day, tomorrow will be better.
(it's not my quote,
someone from the greatest said it long time ago).

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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat May 30, 2009 5:25 am

noone22 wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:11502261 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.151 134.303 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11502256 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.148 134.300 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11502257 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.153 134.305 -15.2 -31.38 0.00 5/28/2009 04:58 5/28/2009 05:17
11501743 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.062 134.214 -15.2 -31.39 0.00 5/28/2009 04:41 5/28/2009 05:15
11501690 EUR/JPY 20 S 134.043 134.195 -15.2 -31.40 0.00 5/28/2009 04:39 5/28/2009 05:15


pro,
You were selling and selling and selling,
despite the fact market was rising.
What were you trying to prove and to whom?
Market doesn't care about our feelings, you know.

Don't you have a rule in your trading plan:
"After N loses - finish trading for the day".
N usually is 3, 5 at maximum.

Profitable trade is not like run-away last train -
if you missed one, next trade - is just around the corner.

Having had N loses in the row - stop traing for a day,
it was not your day, tomorrow will be better.
(it's not my quote,
someone from the greatest said it long time ago).


Noone22,
I have lots of rules in my trading plan.
None of them have told me to trade like this.
It will only work if I follow it.
But I appreciate your whipping. I need it.
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat May 30, 2009 5:26 am

aVi wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:-281.5 pips
-$562.68


Now 603 pips to B/E

Account drained to $486.
It was up to $1340

Until death eh?
OK.



:shock: OUCH! :(

Good luck man, I hope things turn around for you.


Luck has nothing to do with it.
But, thanks for your support.
Appreciated.
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat May 30, 2009 5:45 am

MightyOne wrote:I heard a true story of a man who would trade live until one loss and trade demo until two wins...

something to ponder anyways.

prochargedmopar wrote:Oh joy,
looky here.
I picked up 8 short but it looks like there is a lot more to be had.
Dont' mind the green line, that's a demo sale to see what happens.
I'm up 58 pips on 2 trades with the demo.
Only 17 with the real account.
To gitchy.
Image


I've been thinking about this for 2 days.
Your a genius.
It's when I lose a trade of more than single digits that my mind goes nuts.
This would prevent me from trying to "get back" or get into a "heard mentality" mode.

What is happening is that I'm actually a sheep/pig that makes a few good trades. Then I get a loss and revert back to my "natural" instincts which is to be the heard. If I were to take a few trades on the demo It would allow me to have a "time out" like you give to a 5yo.

Until "fading" the market (psycho-bi-polar mr. market) becomes my natural state and an ingrained habit this should do the trick. At least if I have 3,4,8 losses in a row it won't be doing any more damage.
After I Get a couple wins then I'll be back in the proper state of mind and seeing the flow of the heard. Then I can fade them.
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat May 30, 2009 5:51 am

MightyOne wrote:According to my goal sheet death occurs when you accumulate a loss of 390 pips which is about a 50% loss or 20 to 25 bad trades.

When you die your position size gets cut in half because you can no longer sustain your position sizes.

Lose 390 pips and you will die again and your position size is reduced by half a second time.

"I thought that you don't scale down"

This is not scaling down, you are bust and are starting over.

prochargedmopar wrote:-281.5 pips
-$562.68


Now 603 pips to B/E

Account drained to $486.
It was up to $1340

Until death eh?
OK.


According to the "goal sheet" I"m suppose to start with a default balance of $1000 but an actual $400.

Ok, so,
I decided to drain a little to get to my "proper" starting point.
LOL :twisted:
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat May 30, 2009 6:00 am

prochargedmopar wrote:Image


Does everyone SEE this chart.
It's the only chart you will ever SEE.
There is no other chart out there.
Every day we open our trading platform this is what we are looking at.
Sometimes it's upside down but it's always the same.

Breakout/retrace/consolidation

Sometimes the retrace is a little bigger than normal and then the chart turns upside down. Ok.

What do you SEE then.
Breakout/retrace/consolidation

Doesn't matter the timeframe, it's always the same.

I can't make pips because of me, NOT the market.
The market is always the same.
Bi-polar skitzoid.
Totally predictable.

Look at your chart.
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Postby prochargedmopar » Sat May 30, 2009 6:05 am

BTW, what do you KNOW is gonna happen next in the above pic.
Do you See it retrace after a breakout..........
Then Your right.
Consolidation before the next breakout.
Now go make some pips.
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Postby MightyOne » Sat May 30, 2009 6:59 am

You can make pips...you don't have to slow play the market ;)

prochargedmopar wrote:
MightyOne wrote:According to my goal sheet death occurs when you accumulate a loss of 390 pips which is about a 50% loss or 20 to 25 bad trades.

When you die your position size gets cut in half because you can no longer sustain your position sizes.

Lose 390 pips and you will die again and your position size is reduced by half a second time.

"I thought that you don't scale down"

This is not scaling down, you are bust and are starting over.

prochargedmopar wrote:-281.5 pips
-$562.68


Now 603 pips to B/E

Account drained to $486.
It was up to $1340

Until death eh?
OK.


According to the "goal sheet" I"m suppose to start with a default balance of $1000 but an actual $400.

Ok, so,
I decided to drain a little to get to my "proper" starting point.
LOL :twisted:

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