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Postby lukx » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:18 am

nah I'm not giving up. I'm just pissed that I help some guy in suit by himself new expensive car based on my loosing trades :)

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Postby PTG » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:56 am

lukx wrote:no way to win this game
whoever is doing it is or lying or is extremely lucky
everyone can post historic charts with picked up like cherries trades that supposedly are coming from zl lines.



WHY ON EARTH WERE YOU NOT WAITING FOR AN H4 REVERSAL ???? IT IS DUE IN ABOUT 5 MINUTES FROM NOW ON ALPARI !!!


Everything has been said a thousand times. It's right under your nose. As I said before: re-read all the material available. The post below by a certain MO from Sept 13th. tells you what to do and what you've done wrong to start with.

You will do well if you understand that it is only the momo at the high and low pivots that matter.
After you spot the momo you are simply trading trading away from a line.

Wha wha waht line? Shocked

Any line in the zone &, if you are trading daily momo, the daily highs after momo is also a great place to start.

That mid trend momentum trading is usually a mistake as it is often a great place to liquidate a large position when traders that missed the move are desperate to get in.

Daily, weekly, monthly, & yearly charts are the charts that I look at.

Find momentum and drop down to a small time frame chart, but do not forget that what you are doing is trading the high time frame.

Exit prior to a reversal if you sense one and enter at a better price.

Exit once or twice because thrice will miss the move.

How do you trade?

There are only 2 extremes and price will move a hundred or hundreds of pips from either one.

You have a 50/50 shot or better at a 50% gain.

Just do it!
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Postby PTG » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:09 am

Repeat after me, lukx:

I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.
I shall WAIT for a reversal momo on H4, ONLY THEN will I analyse H1.

And now for the 1000$ question: IS THERE REVERSE MOMO ON H4 RIGHT NOW ??
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Postby PTG » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:15 am

lukx,

what did you SEE on M5 when you decided to enter that trade ?
Did you actually trade off M5, or off H1 ?
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Postby PTG » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:18 am

lukx wrote:nah I'm not giving up. I'm just pissed that I help some guy in suit by himself new expensive car based on my loosing trades :)


Well, forget about the expensive suit however I am looking for a new car as we speak :shock: :D
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Postby PTG » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:28 am

no way to win this game

Is this what you really think, lukx ?

whoever is doing it is or lying or is extremely lucky

Are you of the opinion that it is not in your own hands ?

everyone can post historic charts with picked up like cherries trades that supposedly are coming from zl lines.

WHO is to blame or praise for his OWN actions ?

Are you saying that "everyone" is faking it ?
If so, is the proof of such supposed to be the result of your OWN actions, in this case FAILURE ?

You need to work on your attitude.
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Postby lukx » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:39 am

PTG, you're totally right my attitude is sh&*y just like my trading :) got to work on both:).

I don't quite got this:
"You will do well if you understand that it is only the momo at the high and low pivots that matter. "

What are those high and low pivots, can you pretty please drop me visual help in some screen shot presenting this kind of pivot?

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Postby dragon33 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:47 am

lukx wrote:no way to win this game
whoever is doing it is or lying or is extremely lucky
everyone can post historic charts with picked up like cherries trades that supposedly are coming from zl lines.

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I showed it ones before on babypips. I had an account growing from 300 euro to 22000 euro in less then 3 months.
There was asked to not show it again, so i have covered the numbers. You only have to look for the date and the entry and exit. Watch the chart then you can see it can be done. The big number is a real zl trade the rest is just scalping my way up.
If you count right you will see i made 675 pips in just two days. This is really the last time i show my account. I am not bragging, this is just as real as it is.

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Postby lukx » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:56 am

:smt118 :smt119 :smt120 :smt107

ok , I'm sorry, I'm taking back everything I said, Dragon you can slap me now.

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Postby PTG » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:59 am

lukx wrote:PTG, you're totally right my attitude is sh&*y just like my trading :) got to work on both:).

I don't quite got this:
"You will do well if you understand that it is only the momo at the high and low pivots that matter. "

What are those high and low pivots, can you pretty please drop me visual help in some screen shot presenting this kind of pivot?


One thing you would need to do, is to look things up yourself. The definition of a pivot, as an example, can be found here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pivot

A pivot is a turning point.
That is where the rubber band of the market is stretched to the max, from that point the market will reverse.
A reversal is indicated by momo.
A momo will cause a pull back.
A pull back early in the move is a nice entry point.

Price will make new highs and lows; these are the pivot points.

A reversal indicates that the market has hit a pivot point.

From the pivot point, price will reverse.

In the reversal, there will be a reversal on a lower timeframe. That is the pullback you want to enter in the direction of profit, which is the direction of the market that just has turned.

You want to WAIT for those reversals, THEN enter. If you do NOT spot a reversal after a pivot, do NOT enter the market. You will only loose more money.

I can easily post a chart indicating those turning points, but I'd rather see you post that. I suggest YOU post a chart of GU H4 indicating historical turning points.
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