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Postby spa » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:04 pm

but would you have looked at the PA inside the blue rectangle while bar -b- was forming for a long? and as far as the short nothing jumped out on the smaller Tf's ..

anyway now we are trading lower inside the 1h MZ and at a 4h ZL ... so will look for a long


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spa wrote:how do you guys and gals(altho' lisa hasn't been around lately) go about this chart... 4h momo to the upside,1 h touched a previous ZL and has moved above it forming a new one to the upside that got wicked, 15min shows a possible entry short tho'..

situation like this present themselves more often than not



for me


this is kind of like the other situation that we were discussing the other day

#1 h4 is long
2 when you come into that h1 zl---- what got you there----another momo long candle. So, coming out of the above zl is going to find support based on the h1 bar that got you there----



i would not trade short there



now that the h1 bar marked---b--- found support in the momo created by ------a------- and could not continue to go up, i would be much more comfortable trading short out of that area


so

zl in red

new momo------------a

finds support ( based on a)--zl's them-------------b

cant go up so now i would look short



do you see it?

this is just how i interpret what is going on based on that PA

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Postby aliassmith » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:07 pm

es/pip wrote:
aliassmith wrote:I believe it is my best single trade to date :)

GBP/USD H1 started late US session and finished
up London session for 90 pips.

Long at pullback on the MoMo candle



nice

you got in before i did---

i missed that

traded it off the h4

the h4 chart setting up like that was almost a gift from the banks

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I may have got in earlier, but you got a BIGGER chunk of the pie.

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Postby es/pip » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:11 pm

spa wrote:but would you have looked at the PA inside the blue rectangle while bar -b- was forming for a long? and as far as the short nothing jumped out on the smaller Tf's ..

anyway now we are trading lower inside the 1h MZ and at a 4h ZL ... so will look for a long


es/pip wrote:
es/pip wrote:
spa wrote:how do you guys and gals(altho' lisa hasn't been around lately) go about this chart... 4h momo to the upside,1 h touched a previous ZL and has moved above it forming a new one to the upside that got wicked, 15min shows a possible entry short tho'..

situation like this present themselves more often than not



for me


this is kind of like the other situation that we were discussing the other day

#1 h4 is long
2 when you come into that h1 zl---- what got you there----another momo long candle. So, coming out of the above zl is going to find support based on the h1 bar that got you there----



i would not trade short there



now that the h1 bar marked---b--- found support in the momo created by ------a------- and could not continue to go up, i would be much more comfortable trading short out of that area


so

zl in red

new momo------------a

finds support ( based on a)--zl's them-------------b

cant go up so now i would look short



do you see it?

this is just how i interpret what is going on based on that PA

Image


yes i would have traded long and got out at either b/e or when it didnt break that high--- most likely b/e

i can see taking that short off the 5 min
Bend over and assume the position for another 4 years of hope and change.

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Postby spa » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:23 pm

there was an outside bar one could have used in hindsight...

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Postby es/pip » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:02 pm

spa wrote:there was an outside bar one could have used in hindsight...


i dont trade that bar, but if i was watching it in real time and did trade that pair i would have been short in that 5 min sequence

somewhere around 149.25 and out at 148.78
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Postby cfabian » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:12 pm

I go with you... If trading that scenario, I would be looking to go long.

If you find a setup on smaller TF, it can work BUT for small pips.


es/pip wrote:
spa wrote:how do you guys and gals(altho' lisa hasn't been around lately) go about this chart... 4h momo to the upside,1 h touched a previous ZL and has moved above it forming a new one to the upside that got wicked, 15min shows a possible entry short tho'..

situation like this present themselves more often than not



for me


this is kind of like the other situation that we were discussing the other day

#1 h4 is long
2 when you come into that h1 zl---- what got you there----another momo long candle. So, coming out of the above zl is going to find support based on the h1 bar that got you there----



i would not trade short there
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Postby Fxtraveller » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:26 pm

Took the GU trade.

Obvious resistance on D1.... I wish I had the patience to wait for the "doh" trades. Trade worth 100 pips to me, scaled out, but there is much fuel left as it seems...
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Postby cfabian » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:32 pm

I was in that one as well, however I entered a bit earlier than you, and as the entry wasn't that clean and had DD with closed candles against me, I closed it with +2.

Anyways... this is getting exciting, no losses on the last 8 trades, all with either small pips or BE. I think this is the main goal for a trader. Things are getting more clear and it is really encouraging.

Cheers


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aliassmith wrote:
es/pip wrote:
aliassmith wrote:I believe it is my best single trade to date :)

GBP/USD H1 started late US session and finished
up London session for 90 pips.

Long at pullback on the MoMo candle



nice

you got in before i did---

i missed that

traded it off the h4

the h4 chart setting up like that was almost a gift from the banks

Image


I may have got in earlier, but you got a BIGGER chunk of the pie.
WILL GET MY MONEY BACK FROM THOSE BASTARDS, AND I MEAN IT !!!!!

"WAIT FOR PRICE, WAIT FOR PRICE, WAIT FOR PRICE"

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Postby es/pip » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:26 pm

cfabian wrote:I was in that one as well, however I entered a bit earlier than you, and as the entry wasn't that clean and had DD with closed candles against me, I closed it with +2.

Anyways... this is getting exciting, no losses on the last 8 trades, all with either small pips or BE. I think this is the main goal for a trader. Things are getting more clear and it is really encouraging.

Cheers


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aliassmith wrote:
es/pip wrote:
aliassmith wrote:I believe it is my best single trade to date :)

GBP/USD H1 started late US session and finished
up London session for 90 pips.

Long at pullback on the MoMo candle



nice

you got in before i did---

i missed that

traded it off the h4

the h4 chart setting up like that was almost a gift from the banks

Image


I may have got in earlier, but you got a BIGGER chunk of the pie.


Good deal, glad u r seeing it

This is what I was talking about earlier. If you spend enough time looking at the market this way, then your mind just starts to see it clearer and clearer.

And then it just becomes seconed nature
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Postby Fxtraveller » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:30 pm

to me, the simple fact of trading without any higher maths indicators is already encouraging =] At least I have a better understanding of why price moves, and its not because it HAS to "bounce off" a MA 8 or MA 18, as I was tought, LOL =]

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