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Postby es/pip » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:35 am

nelreth wrote:Hi

I have question about MZ - how do You determine when MZ is broken ?
Candle close above/below MZ ?

Example

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On this picture price is currently in MZ (for short) but the last candle create new MZ (for long)

How do You handle in this case ?

Regards


for me anyway

once the PA goes above/below a MZ and we have new PA then the zone is no longer valid

On this picture price is currently in MZ (for short) but the last candle create new MZ (for long)

u just have to read the PA and make a decision on what makes the most sense----- and look at where the next level of held profit is that you are shooting for. When you were looking short off the above MZ you have a new held profit just created right below you---- so not much room to go down---same on the long that could have been traded--- no real room to go up

could it have been traded----yes------did i trade it-----yes--- was it worth it---- not really

but i was aware that there was no room and just got out at the first sign it was stalling-----


but this trade is a lot more inviting bec it has more room



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Bend over and assume the position for another 4 years of hope and change.

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Postby nelreth » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:34 am

Hi

Thanks es/pip for answer

I think in moments like this the best way is wait for more "cleaner" situation - at least for me I'm still fresh with ZL :)

Regards

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Postby lukx » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:50 am

es/pip wrote:On this picture price is currently in MZ (for short) but the last candle create new MZ (for long)
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hmmm... I can see MZ for short but wher eis this "the last candle create MZ for long" ?

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Postby Shadik » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:10 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:Image

Remember what H. Rearden said?

"Now, 2 patterns of market behaviour happen on a regular basis:

1) the price breaks to new high's (or low's)

2) the price reverses from new high's (or low's)"


After price makes a new low, I will enter long on a green M1 or M5 candle (within 20 pips of the low) with a 10 pip stop loss. Sooner or later, price reverses and I catch the move. This is simple and I don't get beat by the rat.

dailyhl20pips template attached. You should already have the indicators TRO_PLOT and TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_TRAIL.

I really hate seeing fellow traders struggling. KEEP IT SIMPLE.


Sth like AMAZING strategy? :)

Ok, I have sth for you gays and (one?) girl :)

1. This is not my strategy.
2. if price make daily high and low wait for broken OR reversal (pin bar or momo like confirmation ? its depentd from you)
3. One trade per day on one pair - no more
4. Look how often its works perfectly (if daily high is broken then price many times will continue this move if dont then price will back to daily low/high)

check it out:

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Sorry for my english but i hope you all guys see it :)

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Postby pablo101 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:55 am

nelreth wrote:Hi

I have question about MZ - how do You determine when MZ is broken ?
Candle close above/below MZ ?

Example

Image

On this picture price is currently in MZ (for short) but the last candle create new MZ (for long)

How do You handle in this case ?

Regards


Hi, can someone name the indicator that shows the vertical lines to separate the days. Thx in advance. :)

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Postby lukx » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:32 pm

Right click on chart, properties, common, Show Period separators

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Postby aliassmith » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:00 pm

M5 Short Momo to Momo for 20 pips
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Postby es/pip » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:18 pm

lukx wrote:
es/pip wrote:On this picture price is currently in MZ (for short) but the last candle create new MZ (for long)
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hmmm... I can see MZ for short but wher eis this "the last candle create MZ for long" ?

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i shouldn't have really mentioned that------

i was just scalping off the zl's--- bec not much was happening, i think i made 8 pips on it. That's why i was saying it wasn't worth really worth it

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Postby spa » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:32 pm

decided to ask for feedback on the MZ/ZL trades since i don't seem to be able to figure it completly out...

today's EJ trade.. 4h shows a clear ZL while the smaller TFs don't..took the short trade(3rd of the position)had 20+ pips profit and it returned and i got out .. on the 4h nothing has changed ..comments welcomed

is MO's pdf file available, if so can someone be kind enough to share..thanx
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Postby dragon33 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:42 pm

The first trade is not out the book it is just a trade away from resistance

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Here you can see the reentry based on the H1 chart.

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Here you can see the priceaction on the M15. After the first high price drops down but stays in the momocandle. When running back up there is a decrease in speed and time. That made me decide to take the trade!

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