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Postby es/pip » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:59 pm

pablo101 wrote:Yes, my broker is MBT. I had a physical stop there on the MT4 platform. Still waiting for someone to get back to me ...

Anyone with horror stories like this or does this almost never happen (esp. with mbt)?

I had another similar xp in the past with DBFX, price zoomed past me and I tried closing and closing and was down about 60 pips before it actually did. But that is a bucketshop so not surprised it did that.

Anyway, trading is hard enough without this crap to go through :(



i have never had any issues with MBT

did you call them on the phone?

i would be on the phone raising hell and demanding an answer and a solution.

let us know what happens
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Postby newark18 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:07 pm

Pablo,

Raise the issue and I am pretty sure they will resolve it. Talk to the chief compliance officer. And if he doesn't fix it, ask for his supervisor which I believe is the compliance department or something like that. They screwed me on a trade (lost $3k). Worked with the compliance department and they fixed it even though the chief compliance officer refused to make me whole.
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Postby es/pip » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:08 pm

there was no news around that time on that spike------ i was sleeping then


i found this

i dont know maybe it is possible that when that guy hit the button he took all the liq. all the way down to that point where it reversed

not sure

no other currency spiked like that--- so something was going on ---

no way to tell --- but 100 pips slippage is pretty retarded, but if the guy hit it for 3 billion then who the hell knows

but at the same time what liq. providers were involved on his sell vrs the liq providers that MBT uses

shitty situation anyway you look at it



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-late ... der-2010-7
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Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:25 pm

es/pip wrote:there was no news around that time on that spike------ i was sleeping then


i found this

i dont know maybe it is possible that when that guy hit the button he took all the liq. all the way down to that point where it reversed

not sure

no other currency spiked like that--- so something was going on ---

no way to tell --- but 100 pips slippage is pretty retarded, but if the guy hit it for 3 billion then who the hell knows

but at the same time what liq. providers were involved on his sell vrs the liq providers that MBT uses

shitty situation anyway you look at it



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-late ... der-2010-7


Doesn't seem like it would take 100+ pips to fill 3 billion. The whole move
probably was initiated by the big sell and followed through by automated
selling until it hit support.
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Postby es/pip » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:41 pm

aliassmith wrote:
es/pip wrote:there was no news around that time on that spike------ i was sleeping then


i found this

i dont know maybe it is possible that when that guy hit the button he took all the liq. all the way down to that point where it reversed

not sure

no other currency spiked like that--- so something was going on ---

no way to tell --- but 100 pips slippage is pretty retarded, but if the guy hit it for 3 billion then who the hell knows

but at the same time what liq. providers were involved on his sell vrs the liq providers that MBT uses

shitty situation anyway you look at it



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-late ... der-2010-7


Doesn't seem like it would take 100+ pips to fill 3 billion. The whole move
probably was initiated by the big sell and followed through by automated
selling until it hit support.


in theory

on MBT you have roughly 1000 10k lots for each pip which is

10,000,000

so each pip = 10 mill

3, 000,000,000 /10 mill = 300 pips

so it could happen

just depends what was actually on the book at the lower levels that you wouldn't be able to see on the level 2 and who was watching and buying into it


unless my math is wrong, i am extremely hung over today

i think that is correct but i am bad off today, lol
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Postby es/pip » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:44 pm

es/pip wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
es/pip wrote:there was no news around that time on that spike------ i was sleeping then


i found this

i dont know maybe it is possible that when that guy hit the button he took all the liq. all the way down to that point where it reversed

not sure

no other currency spiked like that--- so something was going on ---

no way to tell --- but 100 pips slippage is pretty retarded, but if the guy hit it for 3 billion then who the hell knows

but at the same time what liq. providers were involved on his sell vrs the liq providers that MBT uses

shitty situation anyway you look at it



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-late ... der-2010-7


Doesn't seem like it would take 100+ pips to fill 3 billion. The whole move
probably was initiated by the big sell and followed through by automated
selling until it hit support.


in theory

on MBT you have roughly 1000 10k lots for each pip which is

10,000,000

so each pip = 10 mill

3, 000,000,000 /10 mill = 300 pips

so it could happen

just depends what was actually on the book at the lower levels that you wouldn't be able to see on the level 2 and who was watching and buying into it


unless my math is wrong, i am extremely hung over today

i think that is correct but i am bad off today, lol


but at the same time it took 2 mins for it to go to the bottom, if ti was just him it would have happened in 1 second------ so obviously others were triggered into it , i guess it would just come down to how much he took with his 3 bill initially

but he should not have gotten filled at the bottom regardless --- due to the 2 min's it took to get there
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Postby TygerKrane » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:44 pm

PTG wrote:It's not going to work, this one world BS.
It will be undermined by Asia and the decentralisation through high tech, like internet.
Humble wrote:Yes, we may finish up saying thank god for Asia. May Oz continue it's push to be part of that region.

Hi PTG/Humble,
I don't follow, how does Asia undermine the grand scheme?

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Postby TygerKrane » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:58 pm

PTG wrote:Nice !

All comes down to the same: doing what others don't: the scary stuff :shock:

Image

Didn't trade this, but trades like these are in my plan.

Hi PTG,
Contrary to to JESGPY and es/pip going long,

by, 'scary stuff' (that others won't do),

I assume you mean your aim would have been to look for the short, despite the violent rise in price; as it looked like
  • a potential double top was forming?
  • looked like it was heading into an area of previous overwhelming supply Mark-07_Smile ?
I feel like one of us is impersonating Sam Seiden, lol. :P

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Postby TygerKrane » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:40 pm

bredin wrote:JESGPY,

Trucks run over bunnies.

G.


I like that, somehow it sounds familiar. Must remember.

Takes more time waiting to trade the trucks, but boy is it worth it if you are there and the stars align...

The statement makes me visualize, for example, if I am looking at an H8 chart, the H8 candles conceals all kinds smaller MOMOs -of both directions- within.
Well, the same thing applies to looking even within H4 as well.

All this to say, "Trucks run over bunnies", simple to remember, visualize and easy to understand.

Now I just need to be paying attention when one passes by... = multi-timeframe analysis

I'll be trading bunnies till one tries to cross the highway, then I'll hop onto the truck rather than ...
trying to stay on the bunny
= :arrow: SPLAT!! :shock: , LOL

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Postby TygerKrane » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:23 pm

aliassmith wrote:That link was from 2 years ago.

If you go here http://www.dukascopy.com/swiss/english/tv/general/
then select FX cartoon and then forex monopoly you can hear what I
heard. Maybe I misunderstood the information.
Wasn't able to get the FX cartoon page from that page, better page was http://www.dukascopy.com/forex-tv/ which has the different TV categories including FX cartoon, or better yet http://www.dukascopy.com/forex-tv/Forex_Cartoons/
the Forex Monopoly video is the one dated 09 Jul 2010

hey alias, I just put up that extra info because anyone trying to access the vid at a later date might have a hard time finding it. Thanks for the link and topic.

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