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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mira » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:06 pm

Ahhh it is a breakout of a close with momentum!
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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby nat » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:45 am

not sure if my levels are right,(daily chart) but it looked like it could go either way to me. I dont know the little hints to look for yet tho

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Mira » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:40 pm

nat wrote:not sure if my levels are right,(daily chart) but it looked like it could go either way to me. I dont know the little hints to look for yet tho

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Nat! How are you? :D
I'd like to hear from MO too.

Anyway i THINK that we need more discipline considering targets (and opposite entries), i mean, looking at the "zones" there are always two possible outcomes. The fact that i'm (we are?) still not a good chart reader as the other guys on the board is another story..
I quote MO "[...] The real entry is the #3 point, the #2 has actually been used for many years as a place to take partial profits (Joe Ross, etc) & you
can see that there is still profit taking at the #2 when you look at this chart: [...]"

Maybe it's time to take profits when it's time to take profits lol, i.e.:

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Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:49 pm

I think that you started off good but somehow managed to find the other side of the hill :D

You can't jump in after price has gone nowhere for 18 hours and call a blip a 1-2-3.
If anything the #2 point is at the last 3rd of the prev. day and your blip is a breakout...
the only problem with that is that none of the candles from the prev. day look like a
breakout bar so all that you are really left with is a price range.

The older that data that is being used the larger the chart that you are trading.





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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby Jalarupa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:40 pm

cones work great in a ranging market...

cones work great in a trending market...

I guess what I'm trying to say is...
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Postby Mira » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:50 pm

MightyOne wrote:I think that you started off good but somehow managed to find the other side of the hill :D

You can't jump in after price has gone nowhere for 18 hours and call a blip a 1-2-3.
If anything the #2 point is at the last 3rd of the prev. day and your blip is a breakout...
the only problem with that is that none of the candles from the prev. day look like a
breakout bar so all that you are really left with is a price range.

The older that data that is being used the larger the chart that you are trading.





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Thank you MO!
How can you say that it's not a breakout but a "blip"?

That red bar is bigger than the last n bars and it's a close under the previous extreme, what is telling you that is still part of the range?

Thanks :P
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Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:05 pm

Mira wrote:
Thank you MO!
How can you say that it's not a breakout but a "blip"?

That red bar is bigger than the last n bars and it's a close under the previous extreme, what is telling you that is still part of the range?

Thanks :P


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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:46 pm

If we were sitting in the coffee shop together and I was showing you how to trade then we would go in this order:

Using a napkin:
1) position sizing and how it relates to space
2) restoring space after a loss

Tearing the napkin into strips:
3) money/line management
4) setting specific achievable dollar/percent goals
5) OPM, stacking, & why it is not optional

Drawing line charts:
6) strategy & how to increase your success rate & profits

KISS:
7) everything is patterns, breakouts, & zones.

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8) ideas/nuances that guide my decision making

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Re: How to be a MOnster

Postby MightyOne » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:05 pm

How much can you make on $100 of initial risk? Thousands!

If you are going to risk a lot of money then make sure that it belonged to someone else :lol:

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Postby tom7ak » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:46 pm

Mira wrote:
MightyOne wrote:I think that you started off good but somehow managed to find the other side of the hill :D

You can't jump in after price has gone nowhere for 18 hours and call a blip a 1-2-3.
If anything the #2 point is at the last 3rd of the prev. day and your blip is a breakout...
the only problem with that is that none of the candles from the prev. day look like a
breakout bar so all that you are really left with is a price range.

The older that data that is being used the larger the chart that you are trading.





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Thank you MO!
How can you say that it's not a breakout but a "blip"?

That red bar is bigger than the last n bars and it's a close under the previous extreme, what is telling you that is still part of the range?

Thanks :P


Hi Mira,

Its not exactly clear to me what MO is showing, but referring to this `blip` - I think u were looking at wrong TF. Momentum candle on LTF can become a wick on HTF. I dont think i would be selling a retracement to a pin bar.
you got 2 slow it down
and then u pick it up - PF
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