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Postby pablo101 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:36 am

newark18 wrote:Let me ask all of those outside the US, is it obvious to you that the US dollar will fail and the US will go into chaos? I am asking because I am guessing that only a small percentage of the US population understand what is going on.

I can't even convince my best friends on this imminent danger. They believe that since it never happened in the US, it will never happen.


I'm not a US citizen, but this danger seems obvious to me.

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Postby Jalarupa » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:37 am

newark18 wrote:Let me ask all of those outside the US, is it obvious to you that the US dollar will fail and the US will go into chaos? I am asking because I am guessing that only a small percentage of the US population understand what is going on.

I can't even convince my best friends on this imminent danger. They believe that since it never happened in the US, it will never happen.


If you want to help them realize this, then run a model...

What will happen if the dollar loses its reserve status...? die

What will happen if oil goes to $1.10? inflation, then die

What will happen if QE3 occurs? inflation, then die also the next point will eventually happen...

What will happen if China dumps their US Tbonds? die

What will happen if US attacks China (or vice versa)? die

What will happen if the government cant afford to keep employing? die

What will happen if the Bernank doesn't resign and keeps pumping the press? die

What will happen if a the market corrects in the form of a violent C wave? die

Newark, you have to show them the facts... you have to wake them up to the reality of what the US government have done and are doing to the world... You should at least just ask them to start stock piling canned food and water... buy an extra 3 cans for every months shop and a half a galon of water, and just leave it in the basement or cupboard...

Or ask them to watch this movie by Alex Jones...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 522965274#

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Postby newark18 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:46 am

I am worried to death so much so that I am going to purchase firearms. I have 4 kids and I need to protect my family for the worst case scenario. But I don't know what it will take to convince my friends and family. I almost feel hopeless in that regard. I am trying to take them through baby steps and helping them see the eventual conclusion. But it has not yet worked.
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Postby Jalarupa » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:52 am

pablo101 wrote:
Jalarupa wrote:
December 21 2012...


You as well? ... conspiracy by the 300 to consolidate world power but I think the date is significant


It's more than just a date... It literally the clock ticking to zero... :shock:

Jalarupa wrote:I own gold & silver and grow my own veggies (being a vegetarian also helps). If I can eat, I will survive...


pablo101 wrote:Hope you're armed to the teeth, but a strong community and vertical farming, do that!


We actually planing to use the forex riches to setup our first self sustaining farming community... I wanna get off the grid as soon as possible, so that I don't have to rely on gold, silver and the like for my survival.

Jalarupa wrote:But also if it is my time... well then I will go gracefully into the next life...


pablo101 wrote:I like that, that's all you can do. But wishing to see my son fulfill his dreams would be nice ...


I'm sure we will make it... Our children will fix all our mistakes... They are waking up faster than we are... Just gotta keep them away from the mind control device... the TV...

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Postby newark18 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:55 am

Jal, I wish we could join you!

G, why do the bankers want a one world currency? I've heard that before but i never fully understood why it is beneficial to them. Do you know any documentaries about it?

If you guys had a chance to move to another country based on safety, standard of living and etc, what would it be and why? Maybe I need to just move my family out of here and figure out how to make money after that.
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Postby Jalarupa » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:02 am

newark18 wrote:Jal, I wish we could join you!


When we are up and running I will most certainly extend the invite to you and your family... :wink: and anyone else... (Basically my idea is to have a team of traders who kill the market and the profits are used to build houses and provide for the people of the community... kinda like the complete reverse of a central bank... we will pay you interest free loans in exchange for energy 'time and effort' rendered - in farming, building, protecting, whatever you can contribute)

There are communities like this in the US already (although not the forex kind, but it could happen... who knows?)... and they will take you openly, the only thing is you will have to abide by their way of life, which may not be attractive to most... but atleast you will have a full belly and simple, less complicated life...

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Postby newark18 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:12 am

Thanks Jal :)
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Postby Tresor » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:49 am

pablo101 wrote:I hope this reboot will not happen.


I hope humanity will reboot. The current system is based on wrong ethical values and will fall. Just like an algorithim which has 2+2=5 in it will crash a computer software after a few usages.

The current system designed for humanity is: pay taxes to support the poor and the wars and other programmes introduced at the will of the voting majority (even if you don't agree with these programmes) or receive letters from IRS. If you don't pay after we send a couple of warnings, we'll send the police to bring you to court. If you resist the police, they will break your arms and legs. If you somehow survive the police brutality, you will be put to jail. If you decide to liberate yourself, you will be shot dead by a prison guard.

Hey - how is that different from slavery? In Rome, if you were a slave and didn't pay 90% of your income to your master (who in exchange provided you with food and protection against imaginary threaths), you would get killed too, just like today.

The are a few differences between the current democratic system and the ancient slavery system:
(i) in democracy humans no longer are allowed (need) to directly own other human beings to extract money from them,
(ii) in democracy slaves can vote to empower the ones who will later extract money from them (in old days a slve could not choose his master).
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There is nothing that you can do to prevent a faultly built software from collapse and there is nothing you can do to prevent humanity from rebooting.

pablo101 wrote:Not only Americans will suffer but it will affect numerous countries and their citizens, causing death and mayhem worldwide.


Some people suffered after the reboot which took place following the fall of Roman Empire (not the slaves). What followed later were centuries of relative freedom and almost no taxation.

Unfortunately after a few centuries the priests came with their ... imaginary god. Their god was so almighty he could do anything. For some reason however the god was not able to create gold and silver, and the cycle started again, and now we end up facing the collapse of USA and the reboot of the system in the whole world.

And today's slaves shouldn't be fearfull of the collapse of the current system of indirect slavery, just like the slaves in America a few centuries ago shouldn't have been fearfull of the collapse of direct slavery.

We should cellebrate :smt026

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Postby bredin » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:32 am

newark18 wrote:G, why do the bankers want a one world currency? I've heard that before but i never fully understood why it is beneficial to them. Do you know any documentaries about it?


To quote Baron Rothschild "Give me control of a nations currency and I care not who writes the laws"
If there is only ONE currency, issued by a private company (Central Bank) then we become slaves to that company immediately and forever since the only way to get currency, and thus food etc, is to kowtow to said company and do whatever they want; they will have the power of life and death over the whole worlds population.

The doco you need to watch is "The Money Masters" :)

Do not be concerned with "making money"... be concerned with building wealth. which is independent of money ;)

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Postby Tresor » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:20 pm

es/pip wrote:Where you from Tresor?


Davy Jones' Locker meaning the 'glorious' socialist EU :smt093 meaning I am screwed more than Americans are.

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