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Postby Patch » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:35 pm

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I didn't understand BuyZone three years ago when you were programming it for TradeStation. Wicks and Tails are a big part of trading this strategy as is and even more so the time frame. The bigger the time frame, the bigger wicks and tails traders need to consider and plan for.

I've attached a screen shot of one of my trading strategies. Could you modify TRO02009_WICK_COUNT_UI so it will have an option to display the Wicks, Tails or Both? We already have wicks and tails, so we just need the Both option.

One thing I really like about the BZ is that it is fluid and trades either long or short depending on the price action after the opening of a new candle-genius.

Thanks, so much!

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[I will attach the chart pic when I get home, ran out in a hurry.]

Got home and my computer hung up and had to play around for a while and have dinner with my beloved family.

TRO, I read your post below and have come to believe the wicks and tails and time frames have a great deal to do with how you set your trading variables weather you want to trade each H1 or M30 or M15 or M5 or M1 time frame. There are two ways to trade the wicks, tails and candle bodies. The stats from the two matrix are very helpful in choosing the variable values.

Based on a very small sample, I also am inclined to believe that the wick and tail statistical variance suggests a separate value for each. I've invested a lot of time, and am starting to see, and the value of statistics is beginning to make real sense to me.

Notice the wick and tails tend to get longer with longer time frames. How can we use this in our trading?

Thanks for all your help in this effort,

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:32 pm

It would not make any sense to display BOTH.

Wicks and tails have NOTHING to do with the BUY ZONE.

The Buy Zone is concerned with price movement AWAY from the open or starting price.

Wicks are High - candle body top and tails are candle body bottom - low. Reversal trades are concerned with the wicks and tails.
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Postby Patch » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:20 am

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Could you refer me to threads I should read dealing with wicks and tails and reversals? I dare say this also impacts MO lines and zones and BuyZone trading.

Thanks for all your help,

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Postby stevegee58 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:39 am

Are those candle statistics indicators donational?

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Postby Patch » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:11 pm

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I really like you id icon, welcome to Kreslik.

The indi is TRO2009_WICK_COUNT_UI, any that start with TRO2009 are donational. There is also TRO2009_WICK_HISTOGRAM indi which is also at the bottom of the first chart above. I've got to learn more about wicks and tails.

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Postby Patch » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:37 pm

This morning I saw a post in another thread by glenngie saying it would be nice to have a list of all the donational indicators. That sounded like a good idea and I thought about it. First thought, there are so many donational indi's-over 300, and how to quickly produce a list that we could search on a web page. Taking screen shots was out, well pretty much.

Then I got an idea. Below is a text searchable list of the original set of donational indicators I received. Each indicator is separated by a comma and space. If you are looking for a specific file, click Edit above on the browser bar, then Find and this will search for the file on this entire page.

Below is also a gif of the various indicators I've received since July. These you have to read. Click on the pic and it will get larger.If someone wants to type them up and send them to me, I will add them to the searchable text file. I hope this helps.

I have a list of templates I will add to the text list in a couple days.

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2009.06.23LZZ_TRO_EXT.mq4, AO_FozzySignal.mq4, b-clock_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, BullAndBear_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, BullAndBear_v1.mq4, Darma.Pivots.mq4, DIBSv1.0.mq4, DSS-Bressert.mq4, DSS-Bressert_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, EOD.mq4, FibGenerator_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, fractal_dimensions.FractalChannel.mq4, FX_Sniper_Ergodic_CCI_Trigger.mq4, Heiken-Ashi.mq4, InstantaneousTrendline.mq4, LinearRegressionChannel.mq4, PointAndFigure.mq4, PointAndFigure_TRO_MOD.mq4, PointAndFigure_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, Range_Trader_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, SHI_Channel_true_TRO_MOD.mq4, SnakeForce.mq4, Stochastic.mq4, TheOnlyPivot_MA-Crossover-Signal.mq4, TOPTREND_TRO_EXT.mq4, TradersDynamicIndex.mq4, tro_123_lines.mq4, TRO_Above_Below.mq4, TRO_Dashboard_3LZZ.mq4, TRO_Dashboard_SupRes.mq4, TRO_DRAGON_MONEY_MGMT.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_BZ.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_EXT.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_EXT.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_Trail.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_Trail.mq4, TRO_Fractal_Plot.mq4, TRO_GAP_STATS.mq4, TRO_HL_STATS2.mq4, TRO_InsideBar_Plot.mq4, TRO_INTERNAL_EZ.mq4, TRO_Jacko_Trend_Plot.mq4, TRO_JL.mq4, TRO_JL_BIGBARS.mq4, TRO_Linear-Regression_Auto.mq4, TRO_Linear-Regression_History.mq4, TRO_LR_EXT.mq4, tro_market_info.mq4, tro_mightyzone.mq4, TRO_MO_CANDLES.mq4, tro_mo_numbers.mq4, TRO_MP_AO_FozzySignal.mq4, TRO_MP_DoubleBias.mq4, TRO_MP_Ext_FractalDimension.mq4, TRO_MP_SLOT_MACHINE.mq4, TRO_MP_VegasTunnel.mq4, TRO_MPMM_CandleColor.mq4, TRO_MPMM_EXIT.mq4, TRO_MPMM_TrainingWheels.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_AO_FozzySignal.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_DSS.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_E_CCI.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_Ext_FractalDimension.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_FractalDimension.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_FractalsDimension.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_ITL.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_Jacko.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_LR.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_NewHL.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_Snake.mq4, TRO_MyNotes.mq4, tro_open_dots.mq4, TRO_Paulus_Bar.mq4, TRO_Paulus_Plot.mq4, TRO_Pivot-Lines.mq4 tro_pivot_position.mq4, TRO_PLOT.mq4, TRO_PRICE_ALERT_TIMED.mq4, TRO_PRICE_METER.mq4, tro_price_position.mq4, TRO_RANGE_COUNT.mq4, TRO_RANGE_EZ_P2.mq4, TRO_Rocket_Tank.mq4, TRO_SIGMA_LINES.mq4, TRO_SPREAD_ALERT.mq4, TRO_Squiggly.mq4, TRO_SupResHHLL.mq4, tro_time_sales.mq4, TRO_TP_SL_OPEN.mq4, TRO_TRAININGWHEELS.mq4, TRO_Trend.mq4, TRO_Tunnel.mq4, TRO_XAbove_XBelow.mq4, TRO2009_%Change_SW.mq4, TRO2009_AB_MA_STATS.mq4, TRO2009_Above_Below_Consecutive.mq4, TRO2009_BIAS_EZ.mq4, TRO2009_BreakOut_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_BreakOut_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_BreakOut_COUNT2.mq4, TRO2009_BuyZone_BFD.mq4, TRO2009_Candle_RATIO.mq4, TRO2009_CandleColor_History.mq4, TRO2009_COMPASS_HiLo.mq4, TRO2009_COMPASS_PipChange_HL.mq4, TRO2009_COMPASS_SIMPLE_TREND.mq4, TRO2009_Dashboard_3LZZ.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_BAR_STATS.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_FractalDimension.mq4
TRO2009_DASHBOARD_INSIDE_BAR.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_LR.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_PipDiff.mq4, TRO2009_DIBS_Trade.mq4, TRO2009_Dynamic_PriceChannel.mq4, TRO2009_FD_FibRetrace.mq4, TRO2009_FD_FibRetrace_HL.mq4, TRO2009_HerdMentality.mq4, TRO2009_HHLL_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_HiOp_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_HiOp_OpLo_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_HL_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_IB_Stats.mq4, TRO2009_MO_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_MP_3LZZ.mq4, TRO2009_MP_DFSR.mq4, TRO2009_MP_DFSR.mq4, TRO2009_MP_DSS.mq4, TRO2009_MP_HL.mq4, TRO2009_MP_HL_PIPS.mq4, TRO2009_MP_IB.mq4, TRO2009_MP_ITL.mq4, TRO2009_MP_MasterCandle.mq4, TRO2009_MP_New_HL.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Bemac.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_CandleColor.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_DIBS_TRADE.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_EXIT.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_INSIDEBAR_TRADE.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_OneThird.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Opens%.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Opens.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_PipChange.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Pivots.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_PSYCHO.mq4, TRO2009_MPSM_COMPASS.mq4, TRO2009_MPSM_MA.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_BnB.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_CandleColor.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_DFSR.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_DIBS.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_DSS.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_HL.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_HLbars.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Internal.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_ITL.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_MO_NUMBERS.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_NewHL.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Open.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Pivot.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_PnF.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_RangeAvg.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_TOPTREND.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Travel.mq4, TRO2009_OHLC_GAUGE.mq4, TRO2009_OpenDiff.mq4, TRO2009_OpenDiff_HL.mq4, TRO2009_OpenHL.mq4, TRO2009_OpLo_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_PERIOD_DATA.mq4, TRO2009_PipsToOpen.mq4, TRO2009_PLOT.mq4, TRO2009_Prev_HL_Gauge.mq4, TRO2009_PRICE_EZ2.mq4, TRO2009_RANGE_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_RANGE_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_RANGE_EZ_P2.mq4, TRO2009_Reverse_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_Squiggly_Stats.mq4, TRO2009_SR_RR.mq4, TRO2009_Tick_Histogram.mq4, TRO2009_time_sales.mq4, TRO2009_TRAININGWHEELS.mq4, TRO2009_TREND_METER.mq4, TRO2009_WICK_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_WICK_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_XAbove_XBelow.mq4,
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Postby fres » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:10 am

Patch wrote:This morning I saw a post in another thread by glenngie saying it would be nice to have a list of all the donational indicators. That sounded like a good idea and I thought about it. First thought, there are so many donational indi's-over 300, and how to quickly produce a list that we could search on a web page. Taking screen shots was out, well pretty much.

Then I got an idea. Below is a text searchable list of the original set of donational indicators I received. Each indicator is separated by a comma and space. If you are looking for a specific file, click Edit above on the browser bar, then Find and this will search for the file on this entire page.

Below is also a gif of the various indicators I've received since July. These you have to read. Click on the pic and it will get larger.If someone wants to type them up and send them to me, I will add them to the searchable text file. I hope this helps.

I have a list of templates I will add to the text list in a couple days.

Patch
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2009.06.23LZZ_TRO_EXT.mq4, AO_FozzySignal.mq4, b-clock_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, BullAndBear_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, BullAndBear_v1.mq4, Darma.Pivots.mq4, DIBSv1.0.mq4, DSS-Bressert.mq4, DSS-Bressert_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, EOD.mq4, FibGenerator_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, fractal_dimensions.FractalChannel.mq4, FX_Sniper_Ergodic_CCI_Trigger.mq4, Heiken-Ashi.mq4, InstantaneousTrendline.mq4, LinearRegressionChannel.mq4, PointAndFigure.mq4, PointAndFigure_TRO_MOD.mq4, PointAndFigure_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, Range_Trader_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION.mq4, SHI_Channel_true_TRO_MOD.mq4, SnakeForce.mq4, Stochastic.mq4, TheOnlyPivot_MA-Crossover-Signal.mq4, TOPTREND_TRO_EXT.mq4, TradersDynamicIndex.mq4, tro_123_lines.mq4, TRO_Above_Below.mq4, TRO_Dashboard_3LZZ.mq4, TRO_Dashboard_SupRes.mq4, TRO_DRAGON_MONEY_MGMT.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_BZ.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_EXT.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_EXT.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_Trail.mq4, TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_Trail.mq4, TRO_Fractal_Plot.mq4, TRO_GAP_STATS.mq4, TRO_HL_STATS2.mq4, TRO_InsideBar_Plot.mq4, TRO_INTERNAL_EZ.mq4, TRO_Jacko_Trend_Plot.mq4, TRO_JL.mq4, TRO_JL_BIGBARS.mq4, TRO_Linear-Regression_Auto.mq4, TRO_Linear-Regression_History.mq4, TRO_LR_EXT.mq4, tro_market_info.mq4, tro_mightyzone.mq4, TRO_MO_CANDLES.mq4, tro_mo_numbers.mq4, TRO_MP_AO_FozzySignal.mq4, TRO_MP_DoubleBias.mq4, TRO_MP_Ext_FractalDimension.mq4, TRO_MP_SLOT_MACHINE.mq4, TRO_MP_VegasTunnel.mq4, TRO_MPMM_CandleColor.mq4, TRO_MPMM_EXIT.mq4, TRO_MPMM_TrainingWheels.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_AO_FozzySignal.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_DSS.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_E_CCI.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_Ext_FractalDimension.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_FractalDimension.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_FractalsDimension.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_ITL.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_Jacko.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_LR.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_NewHL.mq4, TRO_Multi_Meter_Snake.mq4, TRO_MyNotes.mq4, tro_open_dots.mq4, TRO_Paulus_Bar.mq4, TRO_Paulus_Plot.mq4, TRO_Pivot-Lines.mq4 tro_pivot_position.mq4, TRO_PLOT.mq4, TRO_PRICE_ALERT_TIMED.mq4, TRO_PRICE_METER.mq4, tro_price_position.mq4, TRO_RANGE_COUNT.mq4, TRO_RANGE_EZ_P2.mq4, TRO_Rocket_Tank.mq4, TRO_SIGMA_LINES.mq4, TRO_SPREAD_ALERT.mq4, TRO_Squiggly.mq4, TRO_SupResHHLL.mq4, tro_time_sales.mq4, TRO_TP_SL_OPEN.mq4, TRO_TRAININGWHEELS.mq4, TRO_Trend.mq4, TRO_Tunnel.mq4, TRO_XAbove_XBelow.mq4, TRO2009_%Change_SW.mq4, TRO2009_AB_MA_STATS.mq4, TRO2009_Above_Below_Consecutive.mq4, TRO2009_BIAS_EZ.mq4, TRO2009_BreakOut_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_BreakOut_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_BreakOut_COUNT2.mq4, TRO2009_BuyZone_BFD.mq4, TRO2009_Candle_RATIO.mq4, TRO2009_CandleColor_History.mq4, TRO2009_COMPASS_HiLo.mq4, TRO2009_COMPASS_PipChange_HL.mq4, TRO2009_COMPASS_SIMPLE_TREND.mq4, TRO2009_Dashboard_3LZZ.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_BAR_STATS.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_FractalDimension.mq4
TRO2009_DASHBOARD_INSIDE_BAR.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_LR.mq4, TRO2009_DASHBOARD_PipDiff.mq4, TRO2009_DIBS_Trade.mq4, TRO2009_Dynamic_PriceChannel.mq4, TRO2009_FD_FibRetrace.mq4, TRO2009_FD_FibRetrace_HL.mq4, TRO2009_HerdMentality.mq4, TRO2009_HHLL_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_HiOp_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_HiOp_OpLo_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_HL_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_IB_Stats.mq4, TRO2009_MO_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_MP_3LZZ.mq4, TRO2009_MP_DFSR.mq4, TRO2009_MP_DFSR.mq4, TRO2009_MP_DSS.mq4, TRO2009_MP_HL.mq4, TRO2009_MP_HL_PIPS.mq4, TRO2009_MP_IB.mq4, TRO2009_MP_ITL.mq4, TRO2009_MP_MasterCandle.mq4, TRO2009_MP_New_HL.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Bemac.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_CandleColor.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_DIBS_TRADE.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_EXIT.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_INSIDEBAR_TRADE.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_OneThird.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Opens%.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Opens.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_PipChange.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_Pivots.mq4, TRO2009_MPMM_PSYCHO.mq4, TRO2009_MPSM_COMPASS.mq4, TRO2009_MPSM_MA.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_BnB.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_CandleColor.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_DFSR.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_DIBS.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_DSS.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_HL.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_HLbars.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Internal.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_ITL.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_MO_NUMBERS.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_NewHL.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Open.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Pivot.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_PnF.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_RangeAvg.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_TOPTREND.mq4, TRO2009_Multi_Meter_Travel.mq4, TRO2009_OHLC_GAUGE.mq4, TRO2009_OpenDiff.mq4, TRO2009_OpenDiff_HL.mq4, TRO2009_OpenHL.mq4, TRO2009_OpLo_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_PERIOD_DATA.mq4, TRO2009_PipsToOpen.mq4, TRO2009_PLOT.mq4, TRO2009_Prev_HL_Gauge.mq4, TRO2009_PRICE_EZ2.mq4, TRO2009_RANGE_COUNT.mq4, TRO2009_RANGE_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_RANGE_EZ_P2.mq4, TRO2009_Reverse_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_Squiggly_Stats.mq4, TRO2009_SR_RR.mq4, TRO2009_Tick_Histogram.mq4, TRO2009_time_sales.mq4, TRO2009_TRAININGWHEELS.mq4, TRO2009_TREND_METER.mq4, TRO2009_WICK_COUNT_UI.mq4, TRO2009_WICK_HISTOGRAM.mq4, TRO2009_XAbove_XBelow.mq4,


Nice work Patch! I'm just curious if there's something available which describes what each indicators are for aside from looking at the individual indicators help text.
Thanks

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Postby Patch » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:17 am

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There is a spreadsheet that comes with the donational indi's that give a brief description of each indi. I use the search function a lot, but please don't tell anyone my secrets. When all else fails I experiment and post questions.

I've also found there is no substitute for screen time.

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Postby noone22 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:22 am

Hi, TRO

What does MM MP and MMMP
stand for in your indicators names?

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Postby roger_over » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:54 am

Aloha TRO I have just made a small donation and I look forward to working with DTB , I just want to say WOW :shock: what a wonderful forum such a difference from the many others out there. It is really great to see a bunch of like minded ppl helping each other. Aloha to all as well!!
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