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Postby prochargedmopar » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:02 am

es/pip wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
adaseb wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
adaseb wrote:
aliassmith wrote:Kind of rough day, hard to get the mind and fingers to co-operate
with each other. Trying to let Price Action determine all my moves.
The fingers think they know more for some reason.

Bad fingers.


With which method do you trade with 50 lots per trade? This M5 scalping method?


I was referring to the method I used before, and everyone sucked up my
liquidity.

When I build up to 50 lots with this new method, I don't want the same
thing to happen.


Would be nice to trade at $500/pip. I'd even settle for 2 pips a day.


I see you make great trades on those longer timeframe trades. If you
stick with that and master it you will get up to 50 lots. You have to focus
and make it a "must do" goal.

I have found what I was searching for in terms of methodology. I was
looking for something based only on price action, no indicator, no candle
stick patterns. I believe I am as close to that as I will get and now
practicing the heck out of it.

I would suggest you do the same with the method you have been most
successful doing. :) 50 lots in our future!


Greed.
Think about it, MO said Money is about nothing anyway??? WHY then is he have such NEED for it.
And es/pip,
And Aliassmith,
And.....

"I was
looking for something based only on price action, no indicator, no candle
stick patterns." alias

Look at this statement alias..........LOOK at it.
You are trading supply and demand levels.
NO MATTER HOW BIG YOUR LOT SIZES THE AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THE MARKET AND LIQUIDITY OF THE MARKET IS STILL THE SAME.

There is only so much to go around.

Why the heck does price move toward a "Z" line and then before reaching it all of a sudden it pulls back......?????
WHY?

Greedy bastards getting in before the level trying to get a jump on the competition.......then what does it do, It makes another push. and again it pulls back. BUT FINALLY IT GETS THERE.

It will always get there eventually.
Supply and demand will NEVER change.

I don't see what the problem is?
I'm not trying to heckle anyone. I'm really not.
Look at this pic. Please.

Image

All of you "Big wheels" tell me how the levels are made!!
Why is the level where it's at?
If a bunch of you high rollers sold 20 pips before the high was made........what would the chart look like then?

I want to know!
Without indy's, candlestick patterns, ect. WHAT ARE YOU REALLY TRADING?



i understood about 3% about what you were saying in all that

i have no idea what you are talking about

AGAIN you are missing the point

NO MATTER HOW BIG YOUR LOT SIZES THE AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THE MARKET AND LIQUIDITY OF THE MARKET IS STILL THE SAME.


HUH??????

if you are trading 1 lot

and i am trading 1k lots

and the price is 1.3601 X 1.3602

there are 1k lots on the offer at 1.3602

the next level that someone is offering something is 1.3603

i press buy and you press buy right right after i do what price are you going to fill at?

everything else you said has nothing to do with what we are talking about

supply and demand does control the market -- you are correct

when demand overcomes supply the market rises----- based on this how can there be an infinite amount of liquidity

i am not sure how you cannot understand this :roll:


Ok, I get what you guys are saying.
You will teach someone how to trade. BUT, you would NEVER call an entry because then you may not get the fill you wanted.

Each man for himself on pulling the trigger.

Oh, and I realize there is not a limitless supply at any given price point which is why when I first came on this board M.O. said that 45 trades for 90 pips was NOT gonna cut it.
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Postby es/pip » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:18 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
es/pip wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
adaseb wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
adaseb wrote:
aliassmith wrote:Kind of rough day, hard to get the mind and fingers to co-operate
with each other. Trying to let Price Action determine all my moves.
The fingers think they know more for some reason.

Bad fingers.


With which method do you trade with 50 lots per trade? This M5 scalping method?


I was referring to the method I used before, and everyone sucked up my
liquidity.

When I build up to 50 lots with this new method, I don't want the same
thing to happen.


Would be nice to trade at $500/pip. I'd even settle for 2 pips a day.


I see you make great trades on those longer timeframe trades. If you
stick with that and master it you will get up to 50 lots. You have to focus
and make it a "must do" goal.

I have found what I was searching for in terms of methodology. I was
looking for something based only on price action, no indicator, no candle
stick patterns. I believe I am as close to that as I will get and now
practicing the heck out of it.

I would suggest you do the same with the method you have been most
successful doing. :) 50 lots in our future!


Greed.
Think about it, MO said Money is about nothing anyway??? WHY then is he have such NEED for it.
And es/pip,
And Aliassmith,
And.....

"I was
looking for something based only on price action, no indicator, no candle
stick patterns." alias

Look at this statement alias..........LOOK at it.
You are trading supply and demand levels.
NO MATTER HOW BIG YOUR LOT SIZES THE AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THE MARKET AND LIQUIDITY OF THE MARKET IS STILL THE SAME.

There is only so much to go around.

Why the heck does price move toward a "Z" line and then before reaching it all of a sudden it pulls back......?????
WHY?

Greedy bastards getting in before the level trying to get a jump on the competition.......then what does it do, It makes another push. and again it pulls back. BUT FINALLY IT GETS THERE.

It will always get there eventually.
Supply and demand will NEVER change.

I don't see what the problem is?
I'm not trying to heckle anyone. I'm really not.
Look at this pic. Please.

Image

All of you "Big wheels" tell me how the levels are made!!
Why is the level where it's at?
If a bunch of you high rollers sold 20 pips before the high was made........what would the chart look like then?

I want to know!
Without indy's, candlestick patterns, ect. WHAT ARE YOU REALLY TRADING?



i understood about 3% about what you were saying in all that

i have no idea what you are talking about

AGAIN you are missing the point

NO MATTER HOW BIG YOUR LOT SIZES THE AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THE MARKET AND LIQUIDITY OF THE MARKET IS STILL THE SAME.


HUH??????

if you are trading 1 lot

and i am trading 1k lots

and the price is 1.3601 X 1.3602

there are 1k lots on the offer at 1.3602

the next level that someone is offering something is 1.3603

i press buy and you press buy right right after i do what price are you going to fill at?

everything else you said has nothing to do with what we are talking about

supply and demand does control the market -- you are correct

when demand overcomes supply the market rises----- based on this how can there be an infinite amount of liquidity

i am not sure how you cannot understand this :roll:


Ok, I get what you guys are saying.
You will teach someone how to trade. BUT, you would NEVER call an entry because then you may not get the fill you wanted.

Each man for himself on pulling the trigger.

Oh, and I realize there is not a limitless supply at any given price point which is why when I first came on this board M.O. said that 45 trades for 90 pips was NOT gonna cut it.


i dont have anything to teach---- all this stuff i do is from what MO has posted about

not that i would never call an entry but i wouldn't want anyone to know how i get in, because if 100 people are getting in the exact same way then the liq. that i want to take will not be the same
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Postby prochargedmopar » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:29 am

So then why does TRO teach to enter at the "buyzone" "psychological level" and the "rat" breakout entry.
Very specific price points?
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Postby es/pip » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:30 am

prochargedmopar wrote:So then why does TRO teach to enter at the "buyzone" "psychological level" and the "rat" breakout entry.
Very specific price points?



ask TRO
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Postby prochargedmopar » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:38 am

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Postby newschool » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:58 am

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cmon guys, I am sure we all will get our Ferraris.

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Postby es/pip » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:36 am

newschool wrote:Image

cmon guys, I am sure we all will get our Ferraris.



the entire forex market = 1.9 trillion

the euro (on my broker) from 1.3600 - 1.3601 = around 9 million


i cant believe this discussion is still going on
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Postby es/pip » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:41 am




TRO will have an opinion just like i have an opinion

not sure why any of this even matters anyway

it is impossible for ANYONE to argue that there is not a limited amount of liquidity at a certain price point and win that argument ----- EVER, FOREVER and FOREVER and EVER and EVER

that was the point of this discussion at the very beginning and still is the one and only thing that has and is being said

i am just bewildered that we are still having this discussion
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Postby prochargedmopar » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:10 am

For me the discussion was more of an emotional one I think.

Why someone would not help there friends get in the market at a decent price or at least the right direction with decent timing so we could all share in the fortunes.......but M.O. answered the question a ways up......

And why your sig says what it does....

WE ARE REALLY ENEMIES.
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Postby aliassmith » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:32 am

prochargedmopar wrote:For me the discussion was more of an emotional one I think.

Why someone would not help there friends get in the market at a decent price or at least the right direction with decent timing so we could all share in the fortunes.......but M.O. answered the question a ways up......

And why your sig says what it does....

WE ARE REALLY ENEMIES.


I believe you are finally understanding. No need to get bent out of shape
about it. We are happy to share concepts and such, but when it comes
down to trading x lots at a certain price I want to get that fill and not the
guy I taught. :twisted:

Matter of fact I am coaching someone to trade this way and the important
thing is he trades at a different time of day than I do. We don't have to
fight over liquidity.
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