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Postby prochargedmopar » Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:21 pm

last post alias and I'll leave your thread alone.

I agree es/pip, I would lose because I don't know squat.

What I do KNOW is that you admitted to NOT combining 3 candles on a regular basis.
I also do NOT see you posting runs of 100 pips or more consistently either

WHY!!!!???
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"You don't know what you don't know"

I thought that was weak at first, but he also says:

"What you don't know is RISK to you and what you don't know is also PROFIT to you"

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Postby es/pip » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:47 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:last post alias and I'll leave your thread alone.

I agree es/pip, I would lose because I don't know squat.

What I do KNOW is that you admitted to NOT combining 3 candles on a regular basis.
I also do NOT see you posting runs of 100 pips or more consistently either

WHY!!!!???
:smt057

Chris lori always says:

"You don't know what you don't know"


I thought that was weak at first, but he also says:

"What you don't know is RISK to you and what you don't know is also PROFIT to you"

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I also said that i do it in my mind in a way

i am not sure who chris lori is nor do i care

i am pretty sure that i would rather trade the way i am vrs whatever lori is doing------ weird how i am not trying to sell my way but he or she is-- huh


you dont see those trades bec i dont post all of my trades

when i scalp i scalp

when i trade a monthly chart i trade a monthly chart

lets just end this conversation on this note :wink:
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Postby aliassmith » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:54 pm

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Postby aliassmith » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:00 pm

JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:To preface the following I would first like to say that I love to help people
learn to trade and share my observation :)

The thing is I was reminded recently about a time in my life when I was
trading and making about 100% a month.

A nice man that I met online introduced me to a trading method and
broker which changed my view of trading possibilities and life.

He and I would chat on Skype and discuss up coming trade possibilities
and take them together. Then there was another person in the Skype
room with us doing the same thing. Then another person had joined us.

My mentor was a very generous man. In fact he was so generous, dispite
my warning, he told a lot of people.

Now I flash forward to MIghtyOne. Why does he share all this info about
trading and why does he tend to leave something out.

I forgot and now remember. If you have a working/profitable trading
method especially on low timeframes, do not share your exact entries,
exit, TP, SL, Trail Stop, etc.

When enough people take the same entries and possibly are at the same
broker liquidity is sucked up and then everyone starts to fight for scraps.
It then comes down to who has the fastest connection to the broker. I
actually rented a server near my broker to get my orders there faster. :roll:

The point is I will not jepordize my trading future or anyone elses that I
trade with by giving away my/our specific trading details. So, I think I will
refrain from posting charts with specific entries and exits on the small
timeframes.

Going from making 100% a month to taking a year to learn a whole new
trading style "BLOWS" :x


alias.

i have a couple of questions and coments.

1st. You think your profitability dimished because the method became know by too many?

2nd. Is that post a mesage for me and other people who find way of making money not to post what they do.

3rd. If the 2nd is TRUE then I think MO or the few people who first grasped his ideas (Dragon, ES/PIP, and some others who now get it) would know that, and they wouldnt have never showed us anything.

4th. I think that forex is such i big market that i dont mind showing people what i think will make money, because they wont take a share of my profit. And also because they may understand what to do, but most dont have what it takes do to it.

5th. I dont fear posting what I posted because, what is the basis of that trading is something that is in the market and will always be.

But I think that if you feel beter not posting then go ahead.
I just wanted to state my point of view.
This is not intended for anything else than that.

JUAN


I will reply to you since you was civilized in your response. Trading BIG
picture charts there is not a huge deal about getting into positions. When
you trade small timeframe charts liquidity can/will be an issue. If I trade
50 lots at 1.3456 and you come along at my broker and trade 1.3456
you could take the lots I would have.

Someone said it was a "bullshit" post. The thing is that I have experienced it.
It forced me to learn a new way to trade.

And I''ll just state it again for clarity. I was affected by the situation I
posted about. It was not second hand information.

As for posting trading concepts and ideas, I am all for that! I love to
discuss trading ideas/concepts. :)
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Postby JESGPY » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:31 pm

aliassmith wrote:
JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:To preface the following I would first like to say that I love to help people
learn to trade and share my observation :)

The thing is I was reminded recently about a time in my life when I was
trading and making about 100% a month.

A nice man that I met online introduced me to a trading method and
broker which changed my view of trading possibilities and life.

He and I would chat on Skype and discuss up coming trade possibilities
and take them together. Then there was another person in the Skype
room with us doing the same thing. Then another person had joined us.

My mentor was a very generous man. In fact he was so generous, dispite
my warning, he told a lot of people.

Now I flash forward to MIghtyOne. Why does he share all this info about
trading and why does he tend to leave something out.

I forgot and now remember. If you have a working/profitable trading
method especially on low timeframes, do not share your exact entries,
exit, TP, SL, Trail Stop, etc.

When enough people take the same entries and possibly are at the same
broker liquidity is sucked up and then everyone starts to fight for scraps.
It then comes down to who has the fastest connection to the broker. I
actually rented a server near my broker to get my orders there faster. :roll:

The point is I will not jepordize my trading future or anyone elses that I
trade with by giving away my/our specific trading details. So, I think I will
refrain from posting charts with specific entries and exits on the small
timeframes.

Going from making 100% a month to taking a year to learn a whole new
trading style "BLOWS" :x


alias.

i have a couple of questions and coments.

1st. You think your profitability dimished because the method became know by too many?

2nd. Is that post a mesage for me and other people who find way of making money not to post what they do.

3rd. If the 2nd is TRUE then I think MO or the few people who first grasped his ideas (Dragon, ES/PIP, and some others who now get it) would know that, and they wouldnt have never showed us anything.

4th. I think that forex is such i big market that i dont mind showing people what i think will make money, because they wont take a share of my profit. And also because they may understand what to do, but most dont have what it takes do to it.

5th. I dont fear posting what I posted because, what is the basis of that trading is something that is in the market and will always be.

But I think that if you feel beter not posting then go ahead.
I just wanted to state my point of view.
This is not intended for anything else than that.

JUAN


I will reply to you since you was civilized in your response. Trading BIG
picture charts there is not a huge deal about getting into positions. When
you trade small timeframe charts liquidity can/will be an issue. If I trade
50 lots at 1.3456 and you come along at my broker and trade 1.3456
you could take the lots I would have.

Someone said it was a "bullshit" post. The thing is that I have experienced it.
It forced me to learn a new way to trade.

And I''ll just state it again for clarity. I was affected by the situation I
posted about. It was not second hand information.

As for posting trading concepts and ideas, I am all for that! I love to
discuss trading ideas/concepts. :)


OK

I get it thanks for the response alias, and also ES/PIP.

Ill follow you advice and just keep it to my self.

JUAN

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Postby es/pip » Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:13 pm

JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:To preface the following I would first like to say that I love to help people
learn to trade and share my observation :)

The thing is I was reminded recently about a time in my life when I was
trading and making about 100% a month.

A nice man that I met online introduced me to a trading method and
broker which changed my view of trading possibilities and life.

He and I would chat on Skype and discuss up coming trade possibilities
and take them together. Then there was another person in the Skype
room with us doing the same thing. Then another person had joined us.

My mentor was a very generous man. In fact he was so generous, dispite
my warning, he told a lot of people.

Now I flash forward to MIghtyOne. Why does he share all this info about
trading and why does he tend to leave something out.

I forgot and now remember. If you have a working/profitable trading
method especially on low timeframes, do not share your exact entries,
exit, TP, SL, Trail Stop, etc.

When enough people take the same entries and possibly are at the same
broker liquidity is sucked up and then everyone starts to fight for scraps.
It then comes down to who has the fastest connection to the broker. I
actually rented a server near my broker to get my orders there faster. :roll:

The point is I will not jepordize my trading future or anyone elses that I
trade with by giving away my/our specific trading details. So, I think I will
refrain from posting charts with specific entries and exits on the small
timeframes.

Going from making 100% a month to taking a year to learn a whole new
trading style "BLOWS" :x


alias.

i have a couple of questions and coments.

1st. You think your profitability dimished because the method became know by too many?

2nd. Is that post a mesage for me and other people who find way of making money not to post what they do.

3rd. If the 2nd is TRUE then I think MO or the few people who first grasped his ideas (Dragon, ES/PIP, and some others who now get it) would know that, and they wouldnt have never showed us anything.

4th. I think that forex is such i big market that i dont mind showing people what i think will make money, because they wont take a share of my profit. And also because they may understand what to do, but most dont have what it takes do to it.

5th. I dont fear posting what I posted because, what is the basis of that trading is something that is in the market and will always be.

But I think that if you feel beter not posting then go ahead.
I just wanted to state my point of view.
This is not intended for anything else than that.

JUAN


I will reply to you since you was civilized in your response. Trading BIG
picture charts there is not a huge deal about getting into positions. When
you trade small timeframe charts liquidity can/will be an issue. If I trade
50 lots at 1.3456 and you come along at my broker and trade 1.3456
you could take the lots I would have.

Someone said it was a "bullshit" post. The thing is that I have experienced it.
It forced me to learn a new way to trade.

And I''ll just state it again for clarity. I was affected by the situation I
posted about. It was not second hand information.

As for posting trading concepts and ideas, I am all for that! I love to
discuss trading ideas/concepts. :)


OK

I get it thanks for the response alias, and also ES/PIP.

Ill follow you advice and just keep it to my self.

JUAN


all i was saying was if i had an exact entry trigger i would not show it.

i have shown all my charts bec i DON'T have a defined trigger

i think all this came off the wrong way

i dont think either of us were saying for everyone not to show what they are doing. Just that when you start getting down to very small time frames then liq. could become an issue--------

ask MO to show you exactly how he gets in to his trades and see if he will tell you


and on a side note i almost completely tore the mbt rep a new *censored - swear word* their order servers were down and made me miss getting short off the top Kriz_Smile

however i did get it about midway down :P

maybe i should call and apologize lol
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Postby bredin » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:22 am

I figure You may as well post charts and discuss stuff simply because there is SO MUCH CRAP out there that any signal tends to get lost in the noise of people yelling about how their method is the best and works all the time and is only $200 to be taught it and.... you get the Idea.

Kind of hide it in plain site.

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Postby Patch » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:15 am

I gotta tell the truth, there is nothing in the trading world like a chart. I am a guy and I am a visual creature. Post charts please for those among us who are like me, visual -- visual -- visual. Seeing is believing.

bredin, you are right on target.

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Postby MightyOne » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:09 am

es/pip wrote:
JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:To preface the following I would first like to say that I love to help people
learn to trade and share my observation :)

The thing is I was reminded recently about a time in my life when I was
trading and making about 100% a month.

A nice man that I met online introduced me to a trading method and
broker which changed my view of trading possibilities and life.

He and I would chat on Skype and discuss up coming trade possibilities
and take them together. Then there was another person in the Skype
room with us doing the same thing. Then another person had joined us.

My mentor was a very generous man. In fact he was so generous, dispite
my warning, he told a lot of people.

Now I flash forward to MIghtyOne. Why does he share all this info about
trading and why does he tend to leave something out.

I forgot and now remember. If you have a working/profitable trading
method especially on low timeframes, do not share your exact entries,
exit, TP, SL, Trail Stop, etc.

When enough people take the same entries and possibly are at the same
broker liquidity is sucked up and then everyone starts to fight for scraps.
It then comes down to who has the fastest connection to the broker. I
actually rented a server near my broker to get my orders there faster. :roll:

The point is I will not jepordize my trading future or anyone elses that I
trade with by giving away my/our specific trading details. So, I think I will
refrain from posting charts with specific entries and exits on the small
timeframes.

Going from making 100% a month to taking a year to learn a whole new
trading style "BLOWS" :x


alias.

i have a couple of questions and coments.

1st. You think your profitability dimished because the method became know by too many?

2nd. Is that post a mesage for me and other people who find way of making money not to post what they do.

3rd. If the 2nd is TRUE then I think MO or the few people who first grasped his ideas (Dragon, ES/PIP, and some others who now get it) would know that, and they wouldnt have never showed us anything.

4th. I think that forex is such i big market that i dont mind showing people what i think will make money, because they wont take a share of my profit. And also because they may understand what to do, but most dont have what it takes do to it.

5th. I dont fear posting what I posted because, what is the basis of that trading is something that is in the market and will always be.

But I think that if you feel beter not posting then go ahead.
I just wanted to state my point of view.
This is not intended for anything else than that.

JUAN


I will reply to you since you was civilized in your response. Trading BIG
picture charts there is not a huge deal about getting into positions. When
you trade small timeframe charts liquidity can/will be an issue. If I trade
50 lots at 1.3456 and you come along at my broker and trade 1.3456
you could take the lots I would have.

Someone said it was a "bullshit" post. The thing is that I have experienced it.
It forced me to learn a new way to trade.

And I''ll just state it again for clarity. I was affected by the situation I
posted about. It was not second hand information.

As for posting trading concepts and ideas, I am all for that! I love to
discuss trading ideas/concepts. :)


OK

I get it thanks for the response alias, and also ES/PIP.

Ill follow you advice and just keep it to my self.

JUAN


all i was saying was if i had an exact entry trigger i would not show it.

i have shown all my charts bec i DON'T have a defined trigger

i think all this came off the wrong way

i dont think either of us were saying for everyone not to show what they are doing. Just that when you start getting down to very small time frames then liq. could become an issue--------

ask MO to show you exactly how he gets in to his trades and see if he will tell you


and on a side note i almost completely tore the mbt rep a new *censored - swear word* their order servers were down and made me miss getting short off the top Kriz_Smile

however i did get it about midway down :P

maybe i should call and apologize lol


"...ask MO to show you exactly how he gets in to his trades and see if he will tell you." -ES/PIP

The world may never know :wink:

I will only give you heavily watered down versions of what I am doing.

We are friends, but we are also enemies :lol:

It is a love/hate relationship Dolar_Smile BlackEye_Smile

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Postby es/pip » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:15 am

MightyOne wrote:
es/pip wrote:
JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
JESGPY wrote:
aliassmith wrote:To preface the following I would first like to say that I love to help people
learn to trade and share my observation :)

The thing is I was reminded recently about a time in my life when I was
trading and making about 100% a month.

A nice man that I met online introduced me to a trading method and
broker which changed my view of trading possibilities and life.

He and I would chat on Skype and discuss up coming trade possibilities
and take them together. Then there was another person in the Skype
room with us doing the same thing. Then another person had joined us.

My mentor was a very generous man. In fact he was so generous, dispite
my warning, he told a lot of people.

Now I flash forward to MIghtyOne. Why does he share all this info about
trading and why does he tend to leave something out.

I forgot and now remember. If you have a working/profitable trading
method especially on low timeframes, do not share your exact entries,
exit, TP, SL, Trail Stop, etc.

When enough people take the same entries and possibly are at the same
broker liquidity is sucked up and then everyone starts to fight for scraps.
It then comes down to who has the fastest connection to the broker. I
actually rented a server near my broker to get my orders there faster. :roll:

The point is I will not jepordize my trading future or anyone elses that I
trade with by giving away my/our specific trading details. So, I think I will
refrain from posting charts with specific entries and exits on the small
timeframes.

Going from making 100% a month to taking a year to learn a whole new
trading style "BLOWS" :x


alias.

i have a couple of questions and coments.

1st. You think your profitability dimished because the method became know by too many?

2nd. Is that post a mesage for me and other people who find way of making money not to post what they do.

3rd. If the 2nd is TRUE then I think MO or the few people who first grasped his ideas (Dragon, ES/PIP, and some others who now get it) would know that, and they wouldnt have never showed us anything.

4th. I think that forex is such i big market that i dont mind showing people what i think will make money, because they wont take a share of my profit. And also because they may understand what to do, but most dont have what it takes do to it.

5th. I dont fear posting what I posted because, what is the basis of that trading is something that is in the market and will always be.

But I think that if you feel beter not posting then go ahead.
I just wanted to state my point of view.
This is not intended for anything else than that.

JUAN


I will reply to you since you was civilized in your response. Trading BIG
picture charts there is not a huge deal about getting into positions. When
you trade small timeframe charts liquidity can/will be an issue. If I trade
50 lots at 1.3456 and you come along at my broker and trade 1.3456
you could take the lots I would have.

Someone said it was a "bullshit" post. The thing is that I have experienced it.
It forced me to learn a new way to trade.

And I''ll just state it again for clarity. I was affected by the situation I
posted about. It was not second hand information.

As for posting trading concepts and ideas, I am all for that! I love to
discuss trading ideas/concepts. :)


OK

I get it thanks for the response alias, and also ES/PIP.

Ill follow you advice and just keep it to my self.

JUAN


all i was saying was if i had an exact entry trigger i would not show it.

i have shown all my charts bec i DON'T have a defined trigger

i think all this came off the wrong way

i dont think either of us were saying for everyone not to show what they are doing. Just that when you start getting down to very small time frames then liq. could become an issue--------

ask MO to show you exactly how he gets in to his trades and see if he will tell you


and on a side note i almost completely tore the mbt rep a new *censored - swear word* their order servers were down and made me miss getting short off the top Kriz_Smile

however i did get it about midway down :P

maybe i should call and apologize lol


"...ask MO to show you exactly how he gets in to his trades and see if he will tell you." -ES/PIP

The world may never know :wink:

I will only give you heavily watered down versions of what I am doing.

We are friends, but we are also enemies :lol:

It is a love/hate relationship Dolar_Smile BlackEye_Smile



i hear ya

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