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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:12 am

aliassmith wrote:
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Yes,
Or this code. Bahahahhahaah

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That is in the description of Dave's vids, I guess he got a code to hock their wares as he uses the accounts and has followers.
Like I said, Cpope uses the $25k accts. Dave uses the Static because he is Super accurate and does not mind having what is basically a $625 account that trades 2 mini's ($20 per point) I may be WRONG. Using 1 lot on Hanko (FX mt4) is $10 per point so I think futures is double.
May be $40 per point with 2 mini's over on Ninja/Rhythmic/Apex.

I mean even if it was only $20 per, 25 points a day with 20 linked accounts is $10k. Not too shabby I suppose.


I was thinking about collecting 20 of these for about $135/month each.
Even if you only earn 25 points a day at $40 a point that is $20k/day


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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby prochargedmopar » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:17 am

aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
Yes,
Or this code. Bahahahhahaah

###misc3.jpg


That is in the description of Dave's vids, I guess he got a code to hock their wares as he uses the accounts and has followers.
Like I said, Cpope uses the $25k accts. Dave uses the Static because he is Super accurate and does not mind having what is basically a $625 account that trades 2 mini's ($20 per point) I may be WRONG. Using 1 lot on Hanko (FX mt4) is $10 per point so I think futures is double.
May be $40 per point with 2 mini's over on Ninja/Rhythmic/Apex.

I mean even if it was only $20 per, 25 points a day with 20 linked accounts is $10k. Not too shabby I suppose.


I was thinking about collecting 20 of these for about $135/month each.
Even if you only earn 25 points a day at $40 a point that is $20k/day


Uhhhhhh,
That's overkill dude.

35 mini's, You know how much that is a point? hahahahahahaha
Oh $hit.

You are not trading the acct size, ONLY the drawdown threshold.
Consider THAT the size of the acct.
Then we need just enough that allows for the lot size we require to trade for X $ a day per account. No more.
2 mini's is $40 a point.
Maybe get some that allow for 4-5 mini's max. that's 50 micros.

1 micro on NQ is $0.50 per tick. $2 per point
So, 1 mini is $5 per tick, $20 per point.
So again, 2 mini's is $10 per tick or $40 per point.

ES is $12.50 per tick and $50 per point but moves slower.

You need 12.5 points a day on NQ for 2 mini's which is $500 X 20 accounts.
There you go. $10k -10% cut.
Or go big, 25 points a day. $20k --LOL
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby prochargedmopar » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:21 am

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kiwiarian wrote:Let me have a play this weekend and save a couple of active threads to pdf and it will give me an idea.

OK, got BONZ exported to pdf, it is 24mb in size. Created a discord server and have uploaded it there along with your indicators Don.
Next will be patterns, starting with small threads first.. :)
Will IM you guys the server link for access. If you don't do discord flick me an email address and I can email them using the gmail file link.


Wonderful. I think it's small due to the amount of pages also. Threads like Doji's or Alias' will take up more. You should be made a moderator in here. I think Kreslikers will agree to this also :)


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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:39 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
That is in the description of Dave's vids, I guess he got a code to hock their wares as he uses the accounts and has followers.
Like I said, Cpope uses the $25k accts. Dave uses the Static because he is Super accurate and does not mind having what is basically a $625 account that trades 2 mini's ($20 per point) I may be WRONG. Using 1 lot on Hanko (FX mt4) is $10 per point so I think futures is double.
May be $40 per point with 2 mini's over on Ninja/Rhythmic/Apex.

I mean even if it was only $20 per, 25 points a day with 20 linked accounts is $10k. Not too shabby I suppose.


I was thinking about collecting 20 of these for about $135/month each.
Even if you only earn 25 points a day at $40 a point that is $20k/day


Uhhhhhh,
That's overkill dude.

35 mini's, You know how much that is a point? hahahahahahaha
Oh $hit.

You are not trading the acct size, ONLY the drawdown threshold.
Consider THAT the size of the acct.
Then we need just enough that allows for the lot size we require to trade for X $ a day per account. No more.
2 mini's is $40 a point.
Maybe get some that allow for 4-5 mini's max. that's 50 micros.

1 micro on NQ is $0.50 per tick. $2 per point
So, 1 mini is $5 per tick, $20 per point.
So again, 2 mini's is $10 per tick or $40 per point.

ES is $12.50 per tick and $50 per point but moves slower.

You need 12.5 points a day on NQ for 2 mini's which is $500 X 20 accounts.
There you go. $10k -10% cut.
Or go big, 25 points a day. $20k --LOL


I understand your math, BUT.....

The $300k has a trailing DD of $7500 compared to the $25K account at $1500.
That is 5 times the DD.
I think if I am conservative and trade 2 contracts @ $40/point and hit 50 points daily scalping, which I can do.
Thats about $40k/day or about $800k a month or about $400k after taxes and expenses.
So, $4.8 million a year net. That gets me interested :mrgreen:
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:42 am

2 trades on the NQ.
What they would look like trading Apex @20 $300k accounts.
It is approximate because I couldn't get the numbers to display how I wanted.
I'm not a TV pro.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:22 am

3 trades during London.
Basic 1.5RR (45 points)
About $36,000 from 20 Apex accounts
Roughly $17,500 after expenses and taxes
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:09 am

That Apex $100k static is pretty much the same as a $5000 myforexfund account except you need 5x the profit. Kinda close to a 5ers $5000 account also.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby Don_xyZ » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:56 pm

aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
I was thinking about collecting 20 of these for about $135/month each.
Even if you only earn 25 points a day at $40 a point that is $20k/day


Uhhhhhh,
That's overkill dude.

35 mini's, You know how much that is a point? hahahahahahaha
Oh $hit.

You are not trading the acct size, ONLY the drawdown threshold.
Consider THAT the size of the acct.
Then we need just enough that allows for the lot size we require to trade for X $ a day per account. No more.
2 mini's is $40 a point.
Maybe get some that allow for 4-5 mini's max. that's 50 micros.

1 micro on NQ is $0.50 per tick. $2 per point
So, 1 mini is $5 per tick, $20 per point.
So again, 2 mini's is $10 per tick or $40 per point.

ES is $12.50 per tick and $50 per point but moves slower.

You need 12.5 points a day on NQ for 2 mini's which is $500 X 20 accounts.
There you go. $10k -10% cut.
Or go big, 25 points a day. $20k --LOL


I understand your math, BUT.....

The $300k has a trailing DD of $7500 compared to the $25K account at $1500.
That is 5 times the DD.
I think if I am conservative and trade 2 contracts @ $40/point and hit 50 points daily scalping, which I can do.
Thats about $40k/day or about $800k a month or about $400k after taxes and expenses.
So, $4.8 million a year net. That gets me interested :mrgreen:


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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby prochargedmopar » Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:01 pm

aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
I was thinking about collecting 20 of these for about $135/month each.
Even if you only earn 25 points a day at $40 a point that is $20k/day


Uhhhhhh,
That's overkill dude.

35 mini's, You know how much that is a point? hahahahahahaha
Oh $hit.

You are not trading the acct size, ONLY the drawdown threshold.
Consider THAT the size of the acct.
Then we need just enough that allows for the lot size we require to trade for X $ a day per account. No more.
2 mini's is $40 a point.
Maybe get some that allow for 4-5 mini's max. that's 50 micros.

1 micro on NQ is $0.50 per tick. $2 per point
So, 1 mini is $5 per tick, $20 per point.
So again, 2 mini's is $10 per tick or $40 per point.

ES is $12.50 per tick and $50 per point but moves slower.

You need 12.5 points a day on NQ for 2 mini's which is $500 X 20 accounts.
There you go. $10k -10% cut.
Or go big, 25 points a day. $20k --LOL



I understand your math, BUT.....

The $300k has a trailing DD of $7500 compared to the $25K account at $1500.
That is 5 times the DD.
I think if I am conservative and trade 2 contracts @ $40/point and hit 50 points daily scalping, which I can do.
Thats about $40k/day or about $800k a month or about $400k after taxes and expenses.
So, $4.8 million a year net. That gets me interested :mrgreen:


Uh, Damn, you plan on having a bad day, like REALLY BAD DAY????

$7500 (even $1500) drawdown from 2 lot?

Sheeeeeet man.
You sure you dont plan on adding 2+2+2+2 on a pullback IN THE WRONG DIRECTION?? hahahaahahahaha
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:36 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:
Uhhhhhh,
That's overkill dude.

35 mini's, You know how much that is a point? hahahahahahaha
Oh $hit.

You are not trading the acct size, ONLY the drawdown threshold.
Consider THAT the size of the acct.
Then we need just enough that allows for the lot size we require to trade for X $ a day per account. No more.
2 mini's is $40 a point.
Maybe get some that allow for 4-5 mini's max. that's 50 micros.

1 micro on NQ is $0.50 per tick. $2 per point
So, 1 mini is $5 per tick, $20 per point.
So again, 2 mini's is $10 per tick or $40 per point.

ES is $12.50 per tick and $50 per point but moves slower.

You need 12.5 points a day on NQ for 2 mini's which is $500 X 20 accounts.
There you go. $10k -10% cut.
Or go big, 25 points a day. $20k --LOL



I understand your math, BUT.....

The $300k has a trailing DD of $7500 compared to the $25K account at $1500.
That is 5 times the DD.
I think if I am conservative and trade 2 contracts @ $40/point and hit 50 points daily scalping, which I can do.
Thats about $40k/day or about $800k a month or about $400k after taxes and expenses.
So, $4.8 million a year net. That gets me interested :mrgreen:


Uh, Damn, you plan on having a bad day, like REALLY BAD DAY????

$7500 (even $1500) drawdown from 2 lot?

Sheeeeeet man.
You sure you dont plan on adding 2+2+2+2 on a pullback IN THE WRONG DIRECTION?? hahahaahahahaha


I like to make it less stressful.

Comparing Apex accounts to the industry based on Draw Down.

The $25k account is really a $15k account with a 1 to 1 objective $1500 to make $1500
The $50k account is really a $25k account with a 1 to 1.2 objective $2500 to make $3000
The $100k account is really a $30k account with a 1 to 2 objective $3000 to make $6000
The $150k account is really a $50k account with a 1 to 1.8 objective $5000 to make $9000
The $250k account is really a $65k account with a 1 to 2.3 objective $6500 to make $15,000
The $300k account is really a $75k account with a 1 to 2.67 objective $7500 to make $20,000

The $100k static account is really a $5000 account with a 1 to 3.2 objective $625 to make $2000
with this account you should be able to build up a profit cushion unlike the FULL accounts that have trailing DD.

The $25K FULL account is probably the best value at 10% gain to pass.
I would probably trade it with 2 micro contracts on the Nasdaq.
$4 a point @ 50 points a day is $200 x 20 accounts $4000/day or about $1,000,000 a year.

To pass the $150k FULL account you basically need 18%
I would probably trade it with 6 micro contracts up to 1 mini contract on the Nasdaq.
$12 a point @ 50 points a day is $600 x 20 accounts $12,000/day or about $3,000,000 a year.


The $100k STATIC account is pretty crappy to start out. You basically need about 32% to pass. BUT
if you can get a profit cushion of about $10k I would use 2 mini contracts at $40/point
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