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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby MightyOne » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:19 pm

pgtips wrote:
TheRumpledOne wrote:The suicide reference is in regards to using the indicators on M1 and M5.
Does that make it clear?


No sorry not as clear as I'd hoped, on this chart and all other on that page posted few days ago

post87791?hilit=drain#p87424

they are all 5 min and have indicators on them ... so it looks like you are using indicators on M5 which confuses me.

The dashboard in donational, do you have one that gives an alert at the top of the hour or if price makes the new high or low, and same for 5 min charts DTBLAR available. . GU 1 hr (closed at high or low) green else red.

Here : http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/forex ... #post39041
you posted the comment "opportunity" : Is it telling me GBPCHF closed within 1 pip of the low (which is therefore opportunity and makes sense.) and for a buy NZDUSD is within 7 pips of the day high, so another inside the 20 pip zone = opportunity.

That would make sense but I'd like to be sure, at this stage its new.

then this one
therumpledone/never-lose-again-t1373/page7850#p87789
is a monster of info. What is it telling me? DTBLAR and NLA seem to have evolved from the simplicity of the earlier concept.

Thank you again TRO for helping to clear things up,

PG :-)


You cannot expect something said in 2009 to be exactly the same as one trades it in 2016; over time one needs to adjust a strategy and the more popular the strategy the more often one needs to adjust.

The first chart is of the Rat-zone which is a trade from the daily high and it is the same on every chart. To the right you see an indication of bias based on H1+.

If your indicator is watching a larger chart then it does not matter which chart you are looking at when you place a trade.
If your horizontal line is based on H1 and you are watching a 5 minute chart then you are still trading an H1 horizontal line.
If you are watching a 1 minute chart and your stop loss is resting at the low of a 4 hour candle then guess what your max timeframe is...

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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:52 pm

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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:00 pm

pgtips wrote:
TheRumpledOne wrote:The suicide reference is in regards to using the indicators on M1 and M5.
Does that make it clear?


No sorry not as clear as I'd hoped, on this chart and all other on that page posted few days ago

post87791?hilit=drain#p87424

they are all 5 min and have indicators on them ... so it looks like you are using indicators on M5 which confuses me.

The dashboard in donational, do you have one that gives an alert at the top of the hour or if price makes the new high or low, and same for 5 min charts DTBLAR available. . GU 1 hr (closed at high or low) green else red.

Here : http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/forex ... #post39041
you posted the comment "opportunity" : Is it telling me GBPCHF closed within 1 pip of the low (which is therefore opportunity and makes sense.) and for a buy NZDUSD is within 7 pips of the day high, so another inside the 20 pip zone = opportunity.

That would make sense but I'd like to be sure, at this stage its new.

then this one
therumpledone/never-lose-again-t1373/page7850#p87789
is a monster of info. What is it telling me? DTBLAR and NLA seem to have evolved from the simplicity of the earlier concept.

Thank you again TRO for helping to clear things up,

PG :-)



" so another inside the 20 pip zone = opportunity." YES. That is a RAT TRADE opportunity.

The dashboard is used to select which pairs to trade for a given strategy. It allows the trade to watch multiple pairs on one chart rather than having to flip through charts looking for a trade opportunity.

If the 5 minute part confuses you, either reread until you understand or move on because it doesn't work for you. Find what works for you!!
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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby pgtips » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:15 pm

:sigh:
I asked in the first post "what changed from 1999 till now. Clearly I understood it evolved but no matter how many posts I try to trawl through all the answers are not there, many (all) have been deleted from several mainstream forums, I use the FFisherman as examples because they're the only ones that still exist, not because I want to be patronised for referring to older charts.

Roads become dead ends, I'm making an effort to tie up anything I find that contradicts in an effort to learn. I believe in the logic of this approach but its evolved quite a lot. I cannot find some answers without some assistance. The 5 minute Q is relevant to someone with only bits of a jigsaw, Qs about the dashboard are also relevant. I have no objection to donating/paying but I want to understand what i am buying, is that so foolish.

I was hoping to become a valued part of this board but my reception is a bit cold.

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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby MightyOne » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:17 pm

pgtips wrote::sigh:
I asked in the first post "what changed from 1999 till now. Clearly I understood it evolved but no matter how many posts I try to trawl through all the answers are not there, many (all) have been deleted from several mainstream forums, I use the FFisherman as examples because they're the only ones that still exist, not because I want to be patronised for referring to older charts.

Roads become dead ends, I'm making an effort to tie up anything I find that contradicts in an effort to learn. I believe in the logic of this approach but its evolved quite a lot. I cannot find some answers without some assistance. The 5 minute Q is relevant to someone with only bits of a jigsaw, Qs about the dashboard are also relevant. I have no objection to donating/paying but I want to understand what i am buying, is that so foolish.

I was hoping to become a valued part of this board but my reception is a bit cold.


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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby pgtips » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:48 pm

ok you are wasting my time, please don't waste yours writing meaningless replies.

you think I want pity, beautiful coming from someone with the username the "MightyOne". that's actually very good, I appreciate the irony.

But no, I don't do pity. You shouldn't assume these things, its off topic, irrelevant and a waste of time for me to read. Keep up the irony though, you're funny. =D>

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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby MightyOne » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:30 pm

pgtips wrote:ok you are wasting my time, please don't waste yours writing meaningless replies.

you think I want pity, beautiful coming from someone with the username the "MightyOne". that's actually very good, I appreciate the irony.

But no, I don't do pity. You shouldn't assume these things, its off topic, irrelevant and a waste of time for me to read. Keep up the irony though, you're funny. =D>


You would find that I am generous with the time that I would spend answering your questions, which have been asked and answered countless times by others, if every response did not hit you in the feels.

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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:42 am

pgtips wrote::sigh:
I asked in the first post "what changed from 1999 till now. Clearly I understood it evolved but no matter how many posts I try to trawl through all the answers are not there, many (all) have been deleted from several mainstream forums, I use the FFisherman as examples because they're the only ones that still exist, not because I want to be patronised for referring to older charts.

Roads become dead ends, I'm making an effort to tie up anything I find that contradicts in an effort to learn. I believe in the logic of this approach but its evolved quite a lot. I cannot find some answers without some assistance. The 5 minute Q is relevant to someone with only bits of a jigsaw, Qs about the dashboard are also relevant. I have no objection to donating/paying but I want to understand what i am buying, is that so foolish.

I was hoping to become a valued part of this board but my reception is a bit cold.


My answers are usually terse. Not trying to be rude or insulting.

Most traders are under the (false) assumption that time frames make a difference. The truth is the 1-tick chart is the ONLY TRUE chart. All other charts are DATA COMPRESSION. Price is the same on all charts.

Trends, support, resistance, supply, demand, etc... are all CONCEPTS!! Daily open, high, low, close are the same across all time frames (from the same broker feed). Understand this will help you to SEE what is going on with the instrument you pick to trade.

Using the 3_Level_ZZ_Semafor indicator (with default settings) on M5 is suicide!! Maybe that clears things up.

May I suggest you watch my trading videos on YouTube.
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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby optymistic » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:48 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:
optymistic wrote:Hi All

Can someone tell me where can I find TRO ebook "The Big Picture Trading Strategy"
It would be great if someone can post a link...

Thanks in advance.


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Re: 2009.03.17 TRO - NEVER LOSE AGAIN!!

Postby pgtips » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:30 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:My answers are usually terse. Not trying to be rude or insulting.

yes I know
TheRumpledOne wrote:Using the 3_Level_ZZ_Semafor indicator (with default settings) on M5 is suicide!! Maybe that clears things up.
May I suggest you watch my trading videos on YouTube.


thanks, yes it expands and makes it clearer. I watched several of the videos last night to make sure i had not missed anything, the daily wick is another approach that looks encouraging. The ZZ semafore I have is a TRO modified one, think from FFisherman. I also have a couple of scripts and EA that you may find useful to complement.

I'm going to look at the VSA side of things today, I wonder is there is a correlation to the 3 level H/L. I think you did this yourself at some point but I cannot recall where I read or saw that, if at all. Might be a waste of time but won't take long to find out.

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