"...I'm pretty cool with losing $15 a trade..."
You are still thinking in terms of dollars I see
What is your account cool with? How you feel is irrelevant!
There are 2 things which will grow your account faster than anything else:
1. Steady account gains on a daily or weekly level.
2. Compounding returns
Let us say that you are used to trading 2 mini lots, but you suffered a massive draw down and are now trading 1 mini lot:
Which is more easy:
A. $1 per pip with a 15 SL & targeting 5+ pips
or
B. $0.10 per pip with a 15 SL targeting 150 pips w/ 10 attempts to do so?
A: 10 trades mostly losers (60%): -$90 in losses + :
A1: 5 pips per trade?: -$90 in losses + $20 in profit = -$70 total
A2: 10 pips per trade?: -$90 in losses + $40 in profit = -$50 total
A2: 20 pips per trade?: -$90 in losses + $80 in profit = -$10 total
A2: 40 pips per trade?: -$90 in losses + $160 in profit = $70 total
(aha! PROFIT!)
or
B: 10 trades mostly losers (60%): -$9 in losses + $60 in profit = $51 total
What if my win % were 90%?
A: 40 pips per trade: $360 in profit - $15 in losses = $345 total
B: 150 pips per trade at 1/10: $135 - $1.50 = $133.50
But lets compare maximum daily loss of 10 trades:
A: -$150
B: -$15
And now subtract that from the total:
$345 - $150 = $195
$133.50 - $15 = $118.50 // getting closer! Off by $76.50!
Twice?:
$195 - $150 = $45! // profits are evaporating
$118.50 - $15 = $103.50! // Profits are holding steady
MORE RISK IS MORE RISK
MORE PROFIT IS MORE PROFIT
$100 gained risking nothing is worth more than $100 gained risking every thing!
Some times less is more...
prochargedmopar wrote:M.O.
I'm looking seriously at your setup.
Lets make a deal:
I'm pretty cool with losing $15 a trade.
I could use $1 pips, a 15 s/l along with a 70 pips TP.
I see it go that far after I'm out but not much further.
I'd still be up 20 pips if I went 8 losses and only 2 wins
Never exiting manually.
FXtraveler.
Thanks for the ideas. That's more like the 1:1 that I'm targeting but never hold on to get. I keep getting told it's the lot size that's getting me.
Or, It could be the need to be right. LOL
I'd sooner think it's the fear of loss though.
Some quick morning trades
+14 pips using this chart.
11887056 EUR/USD 20 B 1.39728 1.39818 9 18.00 0.00 6/9/2009 08:23 6/9/2009 08:25
11886177 EUR/USD 20 S 1.39600 1.39565 3.5 7.00 0.00 6/9/2009 08:05 6/9/2009 08:09
11885917 EUR/USD 20 S 1.39656 1.39641 1.5 3.00 0.00
The one M1 candle close against me trick would have netted me 15 extra pips on one trade and 10 on another.
I didn't sit down to the computer until after the 100 pip H1 candle.
