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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:05 am

aliassmith wrote:
IgazI wrote:
aliassmith wrote:GBPUSD M5
Same day different play! :mrgreen:

Based on $100,000.
Trade #1 5 lots
Trade #2 5 lots then the SL goes between the two orders
Trade #3 10 lots then the SL goes at zero risk of the combined position (somewhere where I marked it, it wasn't percise)

Exit can be whatever you chose but I liked the low seen on the H1 chart.

ends up being about 80 pips at full size or $16,000


One of those every month and you're not starving :)


Good thing it happens way more than once per month if you like to trade like that.


That one would be about $6000, 6% isn't bad.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:58 am

aliassmith wrote:
IgazI wrote:
aliassmith wrote:GBPUSD M5
Same day different play! :mrgreen:

Based on $100,000.
Trade #1 5 lots
Trade #2 5 lots then the SL goes between the two orders
Trade #3 10 lots then the SL goes at zero risk of the combined position (somewhere where I marked it, it wasn't percise)

Exit can be whatever you chose but I liked the low seen on the H1 chart.

ends up being about 80 pips at full size or $16,000


One of those every month and you're not starving :)


Good thing it happens way more than once per month if you like to trade like that.


SP500 M5
Same $100,000 FTMO example!

Max position size is about $1400/point.
At the max average and a 30 point move we get about $42,000
Not bad for a day's work 42% gain.
Ya they happen :mrgreen:
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby IgazI » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:34 am

aliassmith wrote:SP500 M5
Same $100,000 FTMO example!

Max position size is about $1400/point.
At the max average and a 30 point move we get about $42,000
Not bad for a day's work 42% gain.
Ya they happen :mrgreen:


And the risk is:
4 losses = 1
2 losses = 1
and you shouldn't lose anything at 4 lots so the risk should be half the reward at a minimum, no? maybe not per trade, but on average. . .

correct me if I am not thinking clearly.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:51 am

IgazI wrote:
aliassmith wrote:SP500 M5
Same $100,000 FTMO example!

Max position size is about $1400/point.
At the max average and a 30 point move we get about $42,000
Not bad for a day's work 42% gain.
Ya they happen :mrgreen:


And the risk is:
4 losses = 1
2 losses = 1
and you shouldn't lose anything at 4 lots so the risk should be half the reward at a minimum, no? maybe not per trade, but on average. . .

correct me if I am not thinking clearly.


The risk is whatever you risk on your first entry. At the second entry you will have zero or very small risk. The third entry will be zero risk.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby Yirbu » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:55 am

aliassmith wrote:GBPUSD M5
Same day different play! :mrgreen:

Based on $100,000.
Trade #1 5 lots
Trade #2 5 lots then the SL goes between the two orders
Trade #3 10 lots then the SL goes at zero risk of the combined position (somewhere where I marked it, it wasn't percise)

Exit can be whatever you chose but I liked the low seen on the H1 chart.

ends up being about 80 pips at full size or $16,000



Nice examples, thx!
I should have been able to trade the first one. Don't think I would have seen the second and I did see the third one but decided not to trade it. (can't remember why)

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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby Yirbu » Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:04 pm

Today I had a bit of a mixed day trading the dead horse....
It's a bit of a long post...
On EU I took 3 trades; The first trade price went down after a doji and when price came creeping back up I closed it for +10.
In the second trade I tried to hold my trade a bit longer but price came back up and I got out at -1 (tried BE)
The 3th trade went to +10 but came back to my entry faster as expected so I got out at +4. (I tried to hold it longer again and wanted to see price go to the red line which is the daily ADR line)

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If I sticked with trading EU only I would have been happy....however I also traded GU, UC and EH.
All of these trades were losses so in the end I was at a tiny loss :roll:

In retrospective I shouldn't have traded the UC at all...price was not moving and I was trading into 2 big fat red candles.

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EC...I chickened out...shouldn't have done that or I should re-enter and get my pips back.
I entered on the third small candle after the big momo candle. I tried to get wicked in but price kept going up.
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GU...I guess the move lost it's steam when I decided to finally trade this pair.
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I'm going to stop trading (most) other pairs. Only trading EU should help. I always thought trading more pairs would give me more screentime and thus gain experience faster but it looks like it's counterproductive. Looking at my past trades I would be fine just trading EU.

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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:51 pm

Yirbu wrote:Today I had a bit of a mixed day trading the dead horse....
It's a bit of a long post...
On EU I took 3 trades; The first trade price went down after a doji and when price came creeping back up I closed it for +10.
In the second trade I tried to hold my trade a bit longer but price came back up and I got out at -1 (tried BE)
The 3th trade went to +10 but came back to my entry faster as expected so I got out at +4. (I tried to hold it longer again and wanted to see price go to the red line which is the daily ADR line)

220706 - EURUSDiM5.png

If I sticked with trading EU only I would have been happy....however I also traded GU, UC and EH.
All of these trades were losses so in the end I was at a tiny loss :roll:

In retrospective I shouldn't have traded the UC at all...price was not moving and I was trading into 2 big fat red candles.

220706 - USDCADiM5-Loss.png

EC...I chickened out...shouldn't have done that or I should re-enter and get my pips back.
I entered on the third small candle after the big momo candle. I tried to get wicked in but price kept going up.
220706 - EURCHFiM5-Loss.png

GU...I guess the move lost it's steam when I decided to finally trade this pair.
220706 - GBPUSDiM5-Loss.png

I'm going to stop trading (most) other pairs. Only trading EU should help. I always thought trading more pairs would give me more screentime and thus gain experience faster but it looks like it's counterproductive. Looking at my past trades I would be fine just trading EU.


Yes I would suggest you trade 1 pair and 1 timeframe. If you like EU then use that. GU also does well.

Trading more pairs on high timeframe trading can be useful to get more setups. You don't need that on M5 chart.

Master 1 pair then maybe later add another.

1 pair
1 timeframe
1 method
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:54 pm

aliassmith wrote:
Yirbu wrote:Today I had a bit of a mixed day trading the dead horse....
It's a bit of a long post...
On EU I took 3 trades; The first trade price went down after a doji and when price came creeping back up I closed it for +10.
In the second trade I tried to hold my trade a bit longer but price came back up and I got out at -1 (tried BE)
The 3th trade went to +10 but came back to my entry faster as expected so I got out at +4. (I tried to hold it longer again and wanted to see price go to the red line which is the daily ADR line)

220706 - EURUSDiM5.png

If I sticked with trading EU only I would have been happy....however I also traded GU, UC and EH.
All of these trades were losses so in the end I was at a tiny loss :roll:

In retrospective I shouldn't have traded the UC at all...price was not moving and I was trading into 2 big fat red candles.

220706 - USDCADiM5-Loss.png

EC...I chickened out...shouldn't have done that or I should re-enter and get my pips back.
I entered on the third small candle after the big momo candle. I tried to get wicked in but price kept going up.
220706 - EURCHFiM5-Loss.png

GU...I guess the move lost it's steam when I decided to finally trade this pair.
220706 - GBPUSDiM5-Loss.png

I'm going to stop trading (most) other pairs. Only trading EU should help. I always thought trading more pairs would give me more screentime and thus gain experience faster but it looks like it's counterproductive. Looking at my past trades I would be fine just trading EU.


Yes I would suggest you trade 1 pair and 1 timeframe. If you like EU then use that. GU also does well.

Trading more pairs on high timeframe trading can be useful to get more setups. You don't need that on M5 chart.

Master 1 pair then maybe later add another.

1 pair
1 timeframe
1 method


How would you have done if you took 1.5x on every EU trade?
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:08 pm

Hey IgazI stop sending me secret messages. :lol:
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby Yirbu » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:27 pm

aliassmith wrote:
aliassmith wrote:
Yirbu wrote:Today I had a bit of a mixed day trading the dead horse....

How would you have done if you took 1.5x on every EU trade?



Very interesting actually;
Only looking at my EU trades for the last 1,5 week and trading with no interference...just open and let it run...

78% was profitable
Of ALL EU trades 81% reached X1 and 65% reached X1.5.
This means that based on these trades it's more profitable if I don't interfere with my trades and just let it run to 1,5 or take a loss.

I will investigate the X1 vs the X1.5 a bit deeper because there will be slightly less trades to X1.5.
This is because in my analysis the trades run to X1 and are closed after that so a new trade can be opened.
If trades run longer, less trades are being opened because I would still be in a previous trade.

So I have learned a lot today...now see if I can make it work, ha, ha.

So...I'll let my trades run from tomorrow on.
I will investigate if I will go for X1 or X1.5. At least I know that I shouldn't close a trade for less than X1

Good question! thx

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