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Re: ZLINES...

Postby PTG » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:15 pm

arkan1976 wrote:
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hello PTG,
I think that I am near to get it.... :roll:
then , in this trade, i have bought very early....


Definitely on the right track and definitely good you trade small. I would rather get in at the 50% retracement rejection of the up momo candle and observe the 50% of the down momo candle; you could kill the trade after a close below. So, I'd say you were in late.

Notice today develops as a sideways day (so far); not weird after two days of havoc. Need to keep that in mind vis-a-vis any expectations for targets.


Maybe I should think about big Tf's,


Zooming out (that's what looking at bigger TF's is) is definitely a good idea. Markets are fractal.
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Re: ZLINES...

Postby arkan1976 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:55 pm

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Re: ZLINES...

Postby arkan1976 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:57 pm

These last days my head seems to be going to explode, but I am very happy, I think I am understanding the concept.
I do not have words of thanks for the comrades of the forum, and specifically to PTG for all the time he spends trying to explain things to me.
I am exhausted and today I work night shift aggggg, but I leave very happy and excited!

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Re: ZLINES...

Postby PTG » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:31 pm

arkan1976 wrote:nzdusd
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Re: ZLINES...

Postby arkan1976 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:57 pm

I'm reviewing some trades from the previous week ...
in this example, there was no reason to go long, 4h I was saying me that the bias was bearish ... I was lucky ...
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Re: ZLINES...

Postby PTG » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:15 pm

arkan1976 wrote:I'm reviewing some trades from the previous week ...
in this example, there was no reason to go long, 4h I was saying me that the bias was bearish ... I was lucky ...


No reason to go long - depends on how you look at it. You traded back to a Z-line, something like this https://www.kreslik.com/forums/post15139#p15139

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but last momo (short) was still valid so yes, you'd be looking for longer term shorts or shorter term pull backs.
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Re: ZLINES...

Postby arkan1976 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:40 pm

this is what I do not understand,
number 1 cross above 50% level, 2 cross below and 3 above.
Wich is the correct direction ...?
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Re: ZLINES...

Postby arkan1976 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:08 pm

possibles entries ¿
based only in 1h

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Re: ZLINES...

Postby arkan1976 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:16 pm

more examples...
here I see 2 losses and 1 win,
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Re: ZLINES...

Postby PTG » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:53 pm

arkan1976 wrote:this is what I do not understand,
number 1 cross above 50% level, 2 cross below and 3 above.
Wich is the correct direction ...?


You may have to take another approach. Start asking yourself what you want to achieve. It appears you are looking at price to see if there is something to trade. Instead, consider this: post112932#p112932
There is no such thing as a "correct direction" since that implies there is an incorrect one, both leading to an outcome which you couldawouldashoulda have known. Instead, there are simply two options for price to go (long or short) and you as a trader can chose to participate or not. You need to think in terms of scenarios and what you would like to see happen for each scenario so that you can make decisions. We don't know what happens next, there may only be suggestions as to which scenario is the more likely one.
In terms of looking for an understanding of things, you first have to know what you are exactly looking for in scenarios and what it is you'd like to understand. I think it isn't that difficult to understand that a horizontal line is merely a price at a certain point that you can use as a reference to base decisions upon. I think it is a misunderstanding that one line is more important than another; what matters is that other people may think it is and therefore some prophecies may become self fulfilling. But I wouldn't start to believe that myself so as to differentiate yourself mentally from the crowd. You need to start watching the crowd and not becoming one of them.

So, your question: "number 1 cross above 50% level, 2 cross below and 3 above." That is true.
"Which is the correct direction ? " I can't answer. What is it you want to achieve ? From entry where to exit where ? What do you not want to see happening on the way to the exit and what are you going to do if that happens ?

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