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Re: Rekindle the ZLine

Postby MightyOne » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:41 pm

PhilipLangford wrote:I've been trading ZLines like it's 2009. Does exactly what it says on the tin: Never lose again.
Come on, there must still be some ZLiners out there.
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Pattern break-ins and ZL are the same thing; same strategy, different explanation.

It used to look like the attached picture: I would have people create a zone and then I would tell them to simply draw a line
through the zone and that would result in a line that is close enough to the pattern to be tradable.

Whether you use a 'rock-box' or a close or an MZ it is going to be roughly around the same area.

But why would someone go back to 2009 posts? That's like asking a younger version of yourself for wisdom...

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Re: Rekindle the ZLine

Postby PhilipLangford » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:01 pm

MightyOne wrote: Pattern break-ins and ZL are the same thing; same strategy, different explanation.

It used to look like the attached picture: I would have people create a zone and then I would tell them to simply draw a line
through the zone and that would result in a line that is close enough to the pattern to be tradable.

Whether you use a 'rock-box' or a close or an MZ it is going to be roughly around the same area.

But why would someone go back to 2009 posts? That's like asking a younger version of yourself for wisdom...

mz.png


I guess reading NLA is like reading LOTR. You get lost in that world and start to identify with the characters :)
Ah okay so the pattern is formed on a lower tf within the candle, somewhere in the MightyZone. A bit of spacial intelligence condenses the pattern + breakout into the candle image with the randomly placed Zline?

I see that all over my charts now.

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Re: Rekindle the ZLine

Postby aliassmith » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:25 am

PhilipLangford wrote:I've been trading ZLines like it's 2009. Does exactly what it says on the tin: Never lose again.
Come on, there must still be some ZLiners out there.
Coming off a D1 Zline:

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ZL is the foundation of all my trading thought process. Thanks MO for helping me think outside the box.

Where did it come from and where did it go?
Who has the profit and who is looking for the door?
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Re: Rekindle the ZLine

Postby PhilipLangford » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:34 am

MightyOne wrote:
PhilipLangford wrote:I've been trading ZLines like it's 2009. Does exactly what it says on the tin: Never lose again.
Come on, there must still be some ZLiners out there.
...


Pattern break-ins and ZL are the same thing; same strategy, different explanation.

It used to look like the attached picture: I would have people create a zone and then I would tell them to simply draw a line
through the zone and that would result in a line that is close enough to the pattern to be tradable.

Whether you use a 'rock-box' or a close or an MZ it is going to be roughly around the same area.

But why would someone go back to 2009 posts? That's like asking a younger version of yourself for wisdom...

mz.png


I know you've all beaten this to death and back 1000's of times over, but no matter how many times you beat it, it still makes money.
There's a gap, some momentum towards it (remembering TRO's fade the gap from back in the day), a spike back to the MZ and Bob's your uncle.
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Re: Rekindle the ZLine

Postby MightyOne » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:27 pm

PhilipLangford wrote:
I know you've all beaten this to death and back 1000's of times over, but no matter how many times you beat it, it still makes money.
There's a gap, some momentum towards it (remembering TRO's fade the gap from back in the day), a spike back to the MZ and Bob's your uncle.


Is Bob being your uncle a good thing? :|

You got it, what makes it hard is when people don't bend:
when they have to use an 8 pip stop or target so many pips whether the daily range is 40 or 400.
Do you have to make it your way or do you just want to make it?

There is a line width and a chart where a trade makes money and there is a line width and a chart in which you don't; and it is different from chart to chart and from session to session.

If your brain is telling you to tackle a trade with an H4 width then you should probably start at that size; you can always double down to an H1.

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Re: Never Lose Again

Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:52 pm

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

Please do NOT PM me with trading or coding questions, post them in a thread.

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Re: Never Lose Again

Postby PhilipLangford » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:15 pm

Why stop trading at the weekend? Here's today's (Saturday) bitcoin Zline trade. +99 pips despite a 20 pip spread and 6 pip commission.
There is an ocean of held profit underneath, but I had to go out for groceries + spend time with family :D
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Re: Never Lose Again

Postby Mira » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:32 pm

PhilipLangford wrote:Why stop trading at the weekend? Here's today's (Saturday) bitcoin Zline trade. +99 pips despite a 20 pip spread and 6 pip commission.
There is an ocean of held profit underneath, but I had to go out for groceries + spend time with family :D
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Somehow i SEE your entry, nice one!

Do you know if is there a broker giving BTC demo?
Trading the weekend has been a wild dream so far :smt007 :lol:

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Re: Never Lose Again

Postby PhilipLangford » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:04 pm

Mira wrote:
Somehow i SEE your entry, nice one!

Do you know if is there a broker giving BTC demo?
Trading the weekend has been a wild dream so far :smt007 :lol:

Thanks


Whaleclub offers a bunch of crypto's to trade all through the weekend. This trade was on Instaforex with whom you can trade demo and is a fixed spread bandido, but there's something to say about that:

They offer a 200% bonus on signup and 35% every other time you deposit. That's non withdrawable, but any profits you make on top are yours. If you do your sums you can totally offset the nasty spreads they have (3 pips+ on FX majors), by regularly making withdrawals and redepositing after every 100 trades or so.

It's all swings and roundabouts in the end.

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Re: Never Lose Again

Postby Leoheart » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:56 pm

Hey Tro,

Have you ever ran frequency distribution on the weekly candle wicks pertaining to rat zone setups? I am going over some of Mo's space posts and I think stats on weekly wicks can help here. So Daily candle we use 20 pips. How about weekly?

Also, how do you run frequency distribution? Can you show us how? Sorry, If you already went over this in previous posts.

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