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TygerKrane's Sema-Seminar

Postby TygerKrane » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:09 pm

First off, it irks me that it's always spelled "Semafor" and not "Semaphore."
But that's not really an observation... Aside from that, I'm no expert at Semas, but I think I'm qualified enough to note down my observations. {even if this is just a notebook for me to keep my Sema thoughts in one place.}

I use "3_Level_ZZ_Semafor_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION"
Default numerical settings; All 'true/false' settings set to false except for "Sound Alert."


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3-1-1 Sema Pattern

Postby TygerKrane » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:43 pm

[highlight=orange]3-1-1 Sema Pattern:[/highlight]
Well, I certainly hope I didn't over-exaggerate about it being a POWERFUL pattern...but it is something that I think I can work with.

I was visually backtesting my H1 chart with Sema's on it and noticed the 3-1-1 pattern, but then I "overheard" that apparently other traders noticed it as well, so that made me really want to pay attention to it more.

If you didn't know, Sema's usually evolve over time (the numbers can change and revert up and down; the position of them can spread outward from their initial formation point.) So that has to be taken into consideration when looking backwards into a chart.

I try to speak in terms of 'outward' and 'inward' when dealing with Sema's.
I look to trade them as 'break-ins' (i.e. rejection of extremes) (hmmm, which I think most people do?? :roll: )

[font=Arial][highlight=brown]So![/highlight][/font]
3-1-1:
  1. Outward to extreme = forms a 3
  2. Inward as a minor retracement = forms a 1
  3. Outward, a minor push outward from step '2'= forms a 1
If step 3 doesn't push further outward than step 1, then the third Sema has good chance to be locked in as a '1' (what you see in 'hindsight'.)
[highlight=black]Then you expect for Price Action to break inward hard.[/highlight]

Might could be re- stated as
  1. Make an extreme
  2. If~ a failed retest of the extreme <no new extremes made>
  3. Then~ Equals price exhaustion in the outward direction, so definitive/substantial move inward to follow.
NOTE: On an H1 chart, "Extreme" (where the almighty 3Sema forms) does NOT necessarily mean a daily extreme.

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Postby bredin » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:36 pm

Tygs,

when I was using semas I used the indi found at http://insanityindustries.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=94 to show me how a sema would develop. I also used this indi to help devleop II_SupDem ;)

Just thought It might help your analysis a bit.

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3-1-1 Sema Pattern, working out

Postby TygerKrane » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:20 am

[highlight=orange]How 3-1-1 Sema Pattern might develop:[/highlight]

Following EJ:

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3-1-1 Sema Pattern, NOT working out

Postby TygerKrane » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:21 pm

[highlight=orange]How 3-1-1 Sema Pattern might NOT develop:[/highlight]

Following AJ:

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Postby bredin » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:10 pm

On the third to last AJ pic, when you say the support 1 sema might be locked in... trust me, it is. If price were to reverse beyond that low price a new sema would be created. It might not even have to break the low for it to happen

You can plot H1 semas on M15 by multiplying the iperiods by 4, so you use 20, 52 and 136.

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Postby TygerKrane » Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:26 pm

bredin wrote:G. (who spent too much time watching the damn dots form and move :lol:)

Great Minds Thinking Alike again, are we Bredz??? hmm?? Yes???


Thanks a million for the M15 conversion info! I'll see if I prefer to seeing Semas down there as well.


bredin wrote:On the third to last AJ pic, when you say the support 1 sema might be locked in... trust me, it is. If price were to reverse beyond that low price a new sema would be created. It might not even have to break the low for it to happen

Oh, ok, good-ole' Timestamp 10:53!


:idea: bredin :idea: wrote:Tygs,

when I was using semas I used the indi found at http://insanityindustries.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=94 to show me how a sema would develop. I also used this indi to help devleop II_SupDem ;)

Just thought It might help your analysis a bit.

G.

I didn't even sign up yet, what was I thinkin?!?
I'll check it out, see if it adapts. I think, way back, I saw one called "Barry S&R" (or something) that would give a history of sema dots...
Will see how much extra I can take on my charts, Thanks.

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3-1-1 Sema Pattern, ALMOST working out

Postby TygerKrane » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:34 pm

[highlight=orange]How 3-1-1 Sema Pattern might ALMOST develop:[/highlight]

Following AJ: {Actually the continuation from last post's price action}

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Postby trueblueTEX » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:35 am

Hey Tyger,

Let's see if I got this:

1) first, there is a 3 Sema
2) then, a 1 Sema forms
3) then, ANOTHER 1 Sema forms above the previous 1 Sema

4) payoff -- go Long on the Green Rat Reversal (my BIG Green Arrow)

1,2, and 3 are where my arrows are and they are all at the bottom of price. Am I understanding this correctly, we are only talking about the Semas that form at the bottom of price? (for Green Rats; for Red Rats it would be the Semas that form at the top of price)



Is that the 3 1 1 Sema form?


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Postby trueblueTEX » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:12 am

And here might be another one...

(btw: sometimes I cannot upload pictures in line but have to add them as attachments. Anybody know why?)
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