THERUMPLEDONE SUSPENDED FROM POSTING ON ESIGNAL

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THERUMPLEDONE SUSPENDED FROM POSTING ON ESIGNAL

Postby TheRumpledOne » Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:56 pm

THERUMPLEDONE SUSPENDED FROM POSTING ON ESIGNAL


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Hi Avery,

I promised I'd get back with you after digesting all the information gathered. At this point, I've suspended your ability to post and I ask that you take a break this weekend. I will call you on Tuesday and we can talk further.

Talk to you next week.

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Postby fratboy » Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:21 pm

Well Avery you must be a troublemaker :} Maybe you need to quit helping all these other people and go to the dark side or somthing (KIDDDING KIDDING) - I am quite distressed and worried about the way things are going with many of these vendors. My 2 primary real time datafeeds TS and Qchart are now both apparently spinning off in directions that have little regard for the client. I have a trading coach that uses Qchart and I am really worried about what is going to happen when Esignal starts combining it with their existing infrastructure. These guys cant even give us realtime data on SOX and I have this bad feeling that I am going to need to go a different direction. Never fails - big vendor buys nice little product and destroys it. :(

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:17 pm

It's just like my favorite movie of all time - COOL HAND LUKE.

I need to "get my mind right".

Meanwhile, I spend a few nights in "the box".
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:00 am

THIS GOT DELETED FROM THE ESIGNAL FORUM:

> sesh.r@cox.net. wrote: Hi Avery,
>
> I am totally perplexed as to what eSignal folks are worried about
with your postings. Are they worried that someone is actually helping
users of their software make some money in the markets (which one cannot do
without a lot of recoding their software)? Or are they worried that
their so-called software gurus are no longer being requested to make
coding changes /odifications at users request? Yes, you post a lot on the
board but I have not found a single post that could be remotely offending
tona real user of their software. I have been using their software
since 2002 and so far have never come across this kind of action against
someone who was actually helping the users of the BB.
>
> The funny thing is, eSignal folks have come out in the past
vigorously supporting some characters who used to post even gibberish but
posting in praise of eSignal - even if it was totally irrelevant to a users
question or issue at hand. In fact jut because I objected strongly to
him posting gibberish, even Alexis (who usually is helpful to others)
took a grudge on me and started being mean and nasty to some genuine
requests from me. So I stopped asking him for any help. This being so I
wonder who is having objections to your postings and why. Probably you are
putting some software consultants out of work with your free coding and
may be making some traders jittery that you are spilling their secret
edge over the masses but other than that I don't know what is going on
man. I hope this blow over and we will get to see you on the BB soon.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sesh
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Postby Bernoulli » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:37 am

TRO- I had the above deleted message emailed to me, so I already saw it. I wish I could say I was surprised when I saw it was missing from the thread, but I wasn't.

While I personally don't use indicators in my trading, I still respect the way you extend esignal and followed what you were doing. It'll be interesting to see what excuses they have for cutting you off.

Interestingly, I too have had problems with Alexis, who is very defensive about Esignal, esp. when one is reporting bugs in the software. I think I'm on his ignore list also. Well. it all doesn't matter as I am slowly moving all my software to another platform . . .

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Postby michal.kreslik » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:00 am

Well the party line goes like this.


Dramatis personae:

  • Angus: a very talented, skillful and prolific trading platform programmer who is willing to share his code and help beginners for free
  • Horatio: a trader, beginner, who doesn't have much programming skills but is willing to learn
  • Mr. Lear: an old trading software company owner (old/decrepit are both the owner and the company). His well-prospering-and-never-to-be-in-a-bakruptcy-anytime-in-the-future company is named TradeSignalEnron. The stock of TradeSignalEnron is currently trading at a comfortable level
  • Iago: a forum moderator at TradeSignalEnron forums. A sly and envious villain who compensates his various complexes by terrorizing the TradeSignalEnron's forum members every now and then
  • Harpagon: a third-party add-on developer for TradeSignalEnron trading platform. Harpagon makes his evil money by selling his Controllable Realtime Automatical Programs (C.R.A.P.) to the beginning traders who believe they will make money by using them





Act One

Scene: The TradeSignalEnron forum.



Horatio: I've got troubles getting this to work. I really don't have a clue what this all stuff is for. Please help!

Harpagon: I will be glad to help you, man.

Horatio: Oh that's wonderful! I really appreciate that.

Harpagon: You're welcome. You can try my Controllable Realtime Automatical Program. It solves precisely the issue you are talking about.

Horatio: You are so kind.

Harpagon: Well I like to help people.

Horatio: Great! So it will make this GizmoBar work so that it turns red when that FooIndicator crosses the price?

Harpagon: Why, not exactly, but it does some pretty similar thing and you'll make big bucks using that add-on utility, take my honest word on that!

Horatio: I will, Harpagon! Thank you very much, you're so kind!

Harpagon: Once again, I like to help people. I'll actually cut down the price from $5000 to $4999 just for you.

Horatio: Oh. The Controllable Realtime Automatical Program is a paid software?

Harpagon: Yes, it is.

Horatio: Ok.

Harpagon: Well.

Horatio: Hm.

Harpagon: Yes.

Horatio: Uh, I'd like to buy your software but I don't have so many bucks right now. I can barely fund my trading account :(

Harpagon: Well no problem, bro, I guess you should borrow some money and go for the deal as soon as possible since such an unbeatable discount ($1) won't be around for a long time.

Horatio: Hm, ok. Thanks for your effort.




Act Two

Several days later.
Scene: Another thread on the TradeSignalEnron forums.




Horatio: I've got troubles getting this to work. I really don't have a clue what this all stuff is for. Please help!

Angus: Hi, Horatio! I will be glad to help you, man.

Horatio: Uhm, thanks. Aren't you going to sell me the piece of Contollable...

Angus: Oh no :))) How can I help you, really?

Horatio: I need to make this GizmoBar work so that it turns red when that FooIndicator crosses the price.

Angus. No problem, man. I'll need to think about it. Give me a few days.

(after a few days)

Angus: Hi, Horatio. Here is the code.

Horatio: Oh you are such a great programmer, Angus!!

Angus: Well, thanks. I've heard some people saying that already.

Horatio: And your code really works! I am now one step closer to making real money in the markets! Thanks much, Angus, I love you!

Angus: Well, don't be extreme.

Horatio: Anyway, you are the best man here on the forums! I don't need to buy any Controllable... gadgets since I am going to use your code. And it's free!

Angus: You're welcome. Enjoy my code and if you need further help, just drop me a line!



Act Three

Scene: Mr. Lear's Office in New York, 286th floor.



Iago: Sir.

Mr. Lear (trying to put the golf ball into the training hole in the middle of his office):

Iago: Sir!

Mr. Lear (trying to put the golf ball into the training hole in the middle of his office):

Iago: Sir!!! (raising his voice considerably)

Mr. Lear: Hell and damnation!

Iago: I'm so sorry to interrupt you, Sir.

Mr. Lear: You're so bloody blooming sorry to interrupt me?

Iago: Sir, we've got a trouble. Our business partners, the third party developers are consistently complaining about a man named Angus, Sir. He posts on our compa..

Mr. Lear: IT IS MY COMPANY!!!

Iago: I'm so sorry, Sir. He posts on YOUR company's forums and he is giving away his working code for FREE! This decreases our revenue since the third party developers like Harpagon are not being able to sell their piece of Controllable... gadgets to ou.. YOUR customers and thus they can't pay u.. YOU the comissions on that.

Mr. Lear: Why would anyone do that?

Iago: Do what, Sir? Pay us the commissions?

Mr. Lear: Post a working code on my company's forums for free, you idiot.

Iago: Oh, I'm so sorry, Sir. Well, we don't exactly know why does he do that, Sir, but we are already working on his psychological profile, Sir.

Mr. Lear: Do him in.

Iago: I beg your pardon, Sir?

(phone with the "leggy blonde" label on it rings urgently on Mr. Lear's desk)

Mr. Lear: Get out and do whatever you deem necessary!

Iago (taking a textbook bow): As you please, Sir.




Act Four

Next day.
Scene: Phone discussion between Iago and Angus.




Iago: Hello, Angus. I've got some news for you.

Angus: Hello, Iago. Are you going to make me a moderator finally?

Iago: Not exactly, you know I have been issuing warnings concerning your giving away your code to the beginners on the forums.

Angus: I can't see anything bad on that. I am actually helping your business grow that way and I'm doing that for free. Your customers are happy, I'm doing what I like the best and you are getting loyal customers by this since the beginners will be better off using my free tools than using the expensive add-ons that are offered by your competition. So they will stay with your platform. What else could a company owner wish?

Iago: Yes, I know that and we really appreciate that as a company. Our management would like to thank you for that wholeheartedly. You are really having our respect for doing that. And I mean it, honestly. But unfortunately you have broken the rule #34 by doing that.

Angus: Ok, and what is the rule #34?

Iago: You know very well.

Angus: I don't know very well.

Iago: It's the rule that says: "Never break rule #54 nor rule #86."

Angus: Oh I see. And what are the rules #54 and #86?

Iago: You know very well.

Angus: I don't know very well!

Iago: Angus, please! Rules #56 and #86 are telling you, in a nutshell, that you should never ever EVER break rules #115, #262, #582 nor #1126. If you do break some or all of those rules, you are subject to treatment according to the rule #323, possibly even by rule #425 and that is, quite frankly, not very pleasant. Simply put, we would be required by our internal rules structure to suspend you from posting on the TradeSignalEnron forums.

Angus: But the forum members would support me!

Iago: That would actually trigger sanctions in rule #726 and also, unfortunately, in the rule #987. Personally I wouldn't recommned you trying to get that support from the forum members. If you do, our lawyers will charge you with the conseqences found in the rule #1556, #4532, #2264, #3126 and also...

Angus: I'm starting to think someone is trying to make a complete bananas out of me...

Iago: Are you being offensive?!

Angus: I'm only saying that..

Iago: That's enough!! You're BANNED FOR LIFE!!!!

(Iago slams the phone down)




Act five

Scene: Angus's home. Angus still holding the receiver.



Angus: Seems like I should finally listen to Michal and switch to NeoTicker..





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Postby TomKeough » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:20 am

Angus: Seems like I should finally listen to Michal and switch to NeoTicker..


You got that right!
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Screenshots HIDDEN on my TREND INDICATOR thread on eSignal !

Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:08 pm

Has anyone noticed the screenshots on my TREND INDICATOR thread on eSignal are no longer visable!?!??!

What don't they want you to see?

What are they afraid of?

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Postby zeller4 » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:04 pm

Some of them are still there... I'm glad I was able to get your link and studies early! Hang in there COOL HAND LUKE...
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Postby zeller4 » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:09 pm

In fact, I noticed that some links are still available to those using "IN-SEARCH-OF-TRUTH" mode! They just have to read from the good ol' days.

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