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Postby TheRumpledOne » Fri May 16, 2008 11:39 pm

I trade with www.efxgroup.com

They are an ECN. THERE IS NO FIXED SPREAD IN FOREX. Tell them THE RUMPLED ONE sent you.

You can google and find out what I really think about "FIXED SPREAD BANDITS".

I'll leave it at that so I don't get banned.

How do I avoid the spread?

I explained this to someone yesterday in an IM.

With EFX you pay a commission rather than having a "FIXED SPREAD".

It's "apples and oranges" so don't try to compare. "THE MATRIX HAS YOU" and you need to "FREE YOUR MIND" to understand what I am about to explain.

Let's say the current bid/ask is 1.5010 x 1.5015

The current spread is 5 pips.

You want to SHORT.

You SHORT at 1.5010.

You set a TP at 1.5005.

Bid/Ask becomes 1.5005 x 1.5009 and the current spread is 4 pips.

At EFX, you will get filled if the bid is 1.5005 and someone TAKES your offer.

Bid/Ask is now 1.5004 x 1.5009 and YOU HAVE YOUR PROFIT.

Note: the ASK never reached 1.5005. THIS IS IMPORTANT!

If you entered this order at a FIXED SPREAD BANDIT, whoops I mean broker, your order is STILL OPEN!!

The bid/ask must become 1.5000 x 1.5005 and your order HITS the Ask.

DO YOU GET IT?

If not, then read this over and over and over again until the LIGHT BULB goes off!!

The day I found out about EFX is the day I opened an account there and stopped trading with FIXED SPREAD BROKERS.

The simplest thing to do is to load up a demo account at EFX Group and see it with your own eyes.

When you place your TP Bid offer at 1.5005, your bid is displayed on Level II.

The point is with EFX your offer gets hit.

With FIXED SPREAD BROKERS you have to wait to hit their offer.

Maybe this might help:

First:

1.5010 x 1.5015

and price drops...

1.5009 x 1.5014

1.5008 x 1.5013

1.5007 x 1.5013

1.5006 x 1.5012

1.5006 x 1.5011

1.5005 x 1.5011 You may get hit

1.5005 x 1.5010 You may get hit

1.5004 x 1.5009 YOU COVERED 5 PIP GROSS PROFIT

AND LET'S CONTINUE

1.5003 x 1.5008

1.5002 x 1.5007

1.5001 x 1.5006

1.5000 x 1.5005 YOUR FIXED SPREAD BROKER FILLS YOUR ORDER.

Does that make it clearer??

What about the commission cost?

The commission varies depending on the pair trading.

It is $.50 per 10k minilot on USDJPY. So if I gross 2 pips, I am making money.

From the EFX site:


Commission Rates

Fixed spreads are a way for FCMs to markup or markdown the best bid or offer. FCMs do this to hide their fee into the price of the currency pair instead of displaying their best quote. Common sense tells you that no one works for free, so when you see an FCM claim they have ?no commission?, that should be a red flag. So how are they getting paid? Its simple: they are making money with the built-in markup/markdown in the spread.

Our FCM, MB Trading Futures, has nothing to hide. They offer tighter spreads with no markups/markdowns and openly display a low commission rate.

Commissions are based on total dollar amount traded: $5 per $100,000 traded.


Remember, tell EFX that THE RUMPLED ONE sent you.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

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Postby traderduke » Sun May 25, 2008 5:34 pm

TRO,
I have a TS Forex account at this time. I have been picked off many times by their GAI? broker in the middle of the night. EFX trading costs look great but do you feel that their signaling or strategy platform is up to sniff if not what platform do you recommend??

Ray

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Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue May 27, 2008 12:38 am

I use EFX.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!



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Postby ftlnr9 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:42 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:I use EFX.


their mt4 platform is in beta, accepting apps, i read on their site

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Postby moneymarkets » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:48 am

I tried to signon, and says not accepting applications? Can know what to do?

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