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We are living in a dream!

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:05 pm
by webcom
Forex trading on margin is simply a hoax.There isn`t, never been and never will be such a thing.No "Forex broker" will allow you to make money.Why ?Because they loose and ask yourselves which company will have such a bussines plan?By definition ALL forex "brokers" are running a "bucket shop".No order is placed on the market ,ask yourselves where should all the money come from?You simply bet against the "broker".In the same way you bet on sports.Whereas betting on sports is transparent and supervised by millions,in "Forex trading(ha,ha)" the "broker" has the LEGAL RIGHT to give you the price of HIS choice.The latest hoax is the myth of NDD(No Dealing Desk) "trading".....O.K. NDD means in their story telling the imposibility of price manipulation.That is wrong!All "NDD"brokers warn you that depending on market condition they have the right to switch to DD.And once again,YOUR "ORDER" never reaches the market.You will ask why at least brokers do not use the sports model?The answer is simple:because the chances to win in Forex market are really high with all information in Technical Analysis."Brokers", IBs and cohorts and cohorts of marketeers live and live good on the naivity of the masses.I hope that you understood why you will NEVER win in Forex!But it is a nice Dream and a funny way to keep your intellectual skills in shape.

Re: We are living in a dream!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:53 am
by dragon33
webcom wrote:Forex trading on margin is simply a hoax.There isn`t, never been and never will be such a thing.No "Forex brocker" will allow you to make money.Why ?Because they loose and ask yourselves which company will have such a bussines plan?By definition ALL forex "brockers" are running a "bucket shop".No order is placed on the market ,ask yourselves where should all the money come from?You simply bet against the "brocker".In the same way you bet on sports.Whereas betting on sports is transparent and supervised by millions,in "Forex trading(ha,ha)" the "brocker" has the LEGAL RIGHT to give you the price of HIS choice.The latest hoax is the myth of NDD(No Dealing Desk) "trading".....O.K. NDD means in their story telling the imposibility of price manipulation.That is wrong!All "NDD"brockers warn you that depending on market condition they have the right to switch to DD.And once again,YOUR "ORDER" never reaches the market.You will ask why at least brockers do not use the sports model?The answer is simple:because the chances to win in Forex market are really high with all information in Technical Analysis."Brockers", IBs and cohorts and cohorts of marketeers live and live good on the naivity of the masses.I hope that you understood why you will NEVER win in Forex!But it is a nice Dream and a funny way to keep your intellectual skills in shape.

Yeah right, you are probably one of those guys that is to stupid to make money out of forex!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:23 am
by webcom
It is just an opinion,if you don`t agree just prove me wrong!And you konow what?I will be more than happy to be proven wrong!

Can you answer to the simple questions:

-How much money you won last year from Forex on margin?
-Which Forex broker(s) you use?

Untill then I agree that there are two options ,either lose or win.You loose the brokers win.

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:12 pm
by webcom
Anyone who can answer my 2 simple questions? After all we are all "traders" and this is a forex forum (one of the best and TRO is my true Idol)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:08 pm
by Captain Pugwash
Yes, you are living in a dream

You haven't got a single clue who you just got a reply from.

Good luck when you wake up. :)

(edit) P.S. If you needed help here on kreslik it may have been better to just ask your questions rather than be so opinionated and contrary.

no further reply necessary

good luck

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:10 pm
by newscalper
1. Do you think you are presenting something new? Some startling discovery?

3. Retail brokers make enough money in commissions etc to not need to screw punters. Yes there have been tales re certain brokers but in the main, retail Forex punters are perfectly capable enough to lose all their money without broker intervention.

7. As a retail punter with a tiny account it matters not one iota whether you're purely trading against the book or going through to the real market...no you aren't going through to the real market in Forex and never will. Want to go through to the market? Then buy stocks etc unleveraged, direct.

19. Forex is not a zero sum game, it's much much worse than that :lol:

95. Contrary to what traders say on forums, nearly all lose in the end, even those who win for significant periods of time have large drawdown periods. Those who deny this, franky, statistically speaking are liars, however...

7. There are good traders about though and, I believe some of them are amongst the Kreslik population, one of them has responded to you already.

34. TRO is your idol? And yet you don't actually know (no offence to TRO) whether TRO
even trades. No-one who has idols is going to make it as a trader full stop. Want an idol? At least choose Buddha or something. You idolise a person? C'mon! How old are you?? Yes, this answer is an obvious oxymoron :lol:

49: All numbers are random and thus probably as good a set of numbers to use on this weeks lottery as any. Jackpot is looking quite enticing on Euromillions this week. I'm in. Some lucky sod has to win it.

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:49 pm
by newscalper
Forgot to add.

Nice Troll. Tis obvious :lol:

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:35 pm
by Karma
I only play games where I know I can bend the odds

That being said I always assume that the only intelligent strategy for the lottery would be to play the same set of numbers (and only those numbers) every week.

I do however, consider the lottery to be a poor man's diversion

Apparently you see forex similarly.

Once again, the humor in who responded to you and who you are challenging is too understate-ably massive

EDIT (Inclusion)
Troll rating: 0/10
Try babypips, you're bound to get some flames started there

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:38 pm
by Karma
And wouldn't putting the word 'traders' in quotes be a sign of disbelief and disrespect?

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:06 pm
by webcom
Thank you all for your answers.@Captain Pugwash I am on this forum since 2010 and I know who the Celebrities are.It may be so att they have an untouchable status at brockers in exchange to keeping the Forex flame alive.This is a mere speculation, but one has the right to question the "established " conceptions. The only "help" I needed was an answer to the most "simple to answer" questions.My initial posting may be opinionated and contrary but this is a result of some whole years of research and vain search to find somebody who wins Money in Forex.The 3-5% myth is a very clever market trick!All newbees` ego is teased and the results are spectacular for the "brokers" and their marketeers @newscalper:about idols I should have used an emoticon :) ,sorry my mistake.You definitelly can be rich in the stockmarket but I expect same "honestity" and transparence in Forex.The marketing of Forex Company should be very clear on this Point:We are a Betting Company,if you predict the right price you have the Money if not we take your Money.Simple and straightforward.Prices offered should be transparent concerning their source and definitely backward traceable.Why am , so keen on finding real people which actually are profitable in Forex is that I am very, but very profitable on many Demo accounts. I have developed profitable strategies, but I am recluctand to go live.I have red about numerous scams and bad experinces with "brokers" even those who appear seriuous and obedient under many regulations.Even one of the biggest ones noted on the NY-Stock Exchange seems to have problems with the law and many complaints from traders.That is closing trades when profitable, hitting SL at the speed of lightening etc etc .And still noone has been able to answer my humble questions.After accumulated so much knolege about currencies and Forex I have no bigger wish than to begin trading live.Anyone?