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Postby judokamak » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:40 am

Let me say for the record, i didn't t want to label any of the material as pointless or bad or..i watched a lot of posted links.

Most of it shows the real picture.

I just wanted to point, what the root of the problem is. Because people die, systems change, but the problems remain...

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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:58 am

Yes, why is it that we keep making the same mistakes over and over again?

That is what disturbs me the most, that combined with the selfish self interests of everyone which makes them unwilling to change. I fear that the change that is needed will not likely ever occur because the majority of people will never make a change. I fear the only way it will occur will be by FORCE of the various systems COLLAPSING. That is sad because we have the ability to steer the ship onto a different course.
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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:59 am

Change

despite the actual title of the video, it has some good content in the middle and end about what is needed for change.
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Postby judokamak » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:08 am

PebbleTrader wrote:Yes, why is it that we keep making the same mistakes over and over again?


Ask yourself, what remains the same through out the centuries?
On what do we not pay attention to?
Which thing is not part of education or scientific discovery?


I fear the only way it will occur will be by FORCE of the various systems COLLAPSING.


That happened many times. Civilizations are like plants. They are born, they grow and they die. But in the history we know, was there any civilization without same problems we are experiencing right now?
Main stream Darwinism will lead you belief, that this is all "normal" and part of growth, that evolution will bring progress. But the truth is, that evolution/devolution is only a mechanical law with which nature repeats it s cycles.

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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:20 am

I think that most people will try to point the finger at anyone but themself :)

It is the psychology of humans that cause all the problems.
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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:24 am

Thanks for the links Captain.
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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:27 am

Well said Judokamak, I think you are spot on with the absolute root of the problem.
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Postby Jalarupa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:09 pm

judokamak wrote:
PebbleTrader wrote:Yes, why is it that we keep making the same mistakes over and over again?


Ask yourself, what remains the same through out the centuries?
On what do we not pay attention to?
Which thing is not part of education or scientific discovery?


I fear the only way it will occur will be by FORCE of the various systems COLLAPSING.


That happened many times. Civilizations are like plants. They are born, they grow and they die. But in the history we know, was there any civilization without same problems we are experiencing right now?
Main stream Darwinism will lead you belief, that this is all "normal" and part of growth, that evolution will bring progress. But the truth is, that evolution/devolution is only a mechanical law with which nature repeats it s cycles.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXjqqSqT ... re=related

Actually it is like this... ;-)

Your point about cycles is spot on...
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Postby PebbleTrader » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:17 pm

Jalarupa, I don't have a clue what he was talking about in that video ???
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Postby judokamak » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:21 pm

The law of 7 is currious thing to observe..

We have 7 days in a week, 7 notes on musical scale, 7 colours, 7 planets, ....


How About 7 races?

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