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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby The_Snowman » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:40 am

Just to be clear on what I thought the concept of the Green / Red candle is, it is only the most recent CHANGE in color that applies

Here is an example of USDCAD, the indicator could show the candle that was the last time the color (Direction) changed

And it would stay on displayed until there is another color change, you could even have a training wheels message :lol:

When there is a change of color, trader is alerted and must decide if he will take the reversal position according to his own plan & risk.

So, indicator only need to show on 1 candle only in my opinion. 8)

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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:23 am

The_Snowman wrote:Also, I'm not so sure that you have the concept correct or the programming after watching the video again.

To me, the change of the closed candle color is indicating the trend change

See this example, the green candle was the trend change, a breakout trade would be successful; it wasn't the last green candle!

The current candle is closed red and might be the reversal point

You thoughts?

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THERE IS NO TREND.

TREND ONLY EXISTS IN THE MIND OF THE TRADER.


Now that we have that out of the way...

In the example you provided, you want to see if the price breaks the low of the last green/white candle. If it does, then the reversal is ON. Otherwise, it is just a little pull back.
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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:33 am

The_Snowman wrote:Just to be clear on what I thought the concept of the Green / Red candle is, it is only the most recent CHANGE in color that applies

Here is an example of USDCAD, the indicator could show the candle that was the last time the color (Direction) changed

And it would stay on displayed until there is another color change, you could even have a training wheels message :lol:

When there is a change of color, trader is alerted and must decide if he will take the reversal position according to his own plan & risk.

So, indicator only need to show on 1 candle only in my opinion. 8)

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Perhaps my interpretation is different. Two things can happen, continuation or reversal.

If at the top you have green, followed by red there are these possibilities:

If price breaks the top of the red or green candle, that would be continuation;

If price breaks the low of the green or red candle, that would be reversal.

Now, I can see what you may only want to use the latest color change. I feel you are missing out by not considering both.

When there is separation between the last red and last green, that shows a strong move. When there is overlap of the two, that shows a change in sentiment at the moment.

In you latest example, only taking the breakout of the white/green candle high could lead to loss because the black/red candle high has not been broken. I have had my fingers burned more than once taking that breakout. Now I know better. I may move up a time frame to check the candles or just wait for the black/red candle high to be broken.

Perhaps I don't understand the original intent. But I understand what I SEE.

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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby The_Snowman » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:12 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:
In you latest example, only taking the breakout of the white/green candle high could lead to loss because the black/red candle high has not been broken. I have had my fingers burned more than once taking that breakout. Now I know better. I may move up a time frame to check the candles or just wait for the black/red candle high to be broken.

Perhaps I don't understand the original intent. But I understand what I SEE.

Thank you.


What is that you are saying, if price breaks the high of the white candle and keeps going it will be a losing long trade?

And why does it have to break the high of the previous red candle? Sounds like trend confirmation to me.

Are you now saying this is a 2 candles pattern formation?

To try to be clear again, to me this a reversal strategy, the change in direction signalled by color

It can generate some excellent trades when used with trading what you see, mainly on higher time frames IMHO

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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:11 pm

The_Snowman wrote:
What is that you are saying, if price breaks the high of the white candle and keeps going it will be a losing long trade?

And why does it have to break the high of the previous red candle? Sounds like trend confirmation to me.

Are you now saying this is a 2 candles pattern formation?

To try to be clear again, to me this a reversal strategy, the change in direction signalled by color

It can generate some excellent trades when used with trading what you see, mainly on higher time frames IMHO


NO. That is not what I am saying!

If price breaks the top of the white (bull) candle, it may or may not break the high of the black (bear) candle. Failure to break the high of the bull candle means reversal, not continuation.

If price has been going UP (bull candles), then it goes DOWN and closes as a bear candle then, price needs to break the high of the bear candle for there to be a continuation.

Two candle formation? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Depends on price action. Trade what you see.
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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:33 pm

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Would you be more inclined to take the break of the black (bear) candle to the upside or downside?
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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby The_Snowman » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:51 pm

TheRumpledOne wrote:TRO001.png

Would you be more inclined to take the break of the black (bear) candle to the upside or downside?


I don't trade 15M so I have no idea

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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby TheRumpledOne » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:41 am

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See what happens when price leaves the dots behind?
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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby The_Snowman » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:43 am

Chart supports the theory that the candle that changes color is the one that should be highlighted

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Re: TRO 2018 DONATIONAL INDICATORS

Postby TheRumpledOne » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:55 pm

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