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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby aliassmith » Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:52 pm

prochargedmopar wrote:
prochargedmopar wrote:M.O said that someone told him I can lose 80% of my net worth and then have it all back + some in a year.

If Im willing to pay $10 (risk) for a new Dodge challenger ($37k)
Then that is what I'm willing to pay dammit.
Not a penny more.
Heheheh

If Im willing to pay $10 for a new Bass boat, which I am not,
Then I will not risk $10 for it.
Period.

Everything in my world is based on $10 whether I have $100 or $1000 account.

@$10k it will be $100
@$100k it will be $100
@$1mil it will be $100

For any item or activity I decide to add to my world.


What I am saying is that once I have an account reach $10k,
I will never risk more than $100 to get to my GOAL % increase OR total I require for a given purchase.


Why risk your money when you don't need to? Once I
have "free money" why should I risk my own!
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby TheRumpledOne » Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:52 pm

aliassmith wrote:Why risk your money when you don't need to? Once I
have "free money" why should I risk my own!


Once you get it, it is YOUR MONEY.... not free money or house money... it is YOUR MONEY.

This is a mistake that many people make.


"Ah the fallacy of house money. No such thing. If you have it, or can cash it out, it's YOUR money. If you would like to assign a different risk tolerance to these "winnings" than your initial outlay, go for it. However, most people assign a irrational risk tolerance to "winnings" compared to, say, money received via gift."

" Fallacy is such an abused word but it refers to arguments that use poor reasoning and valuing money differently because you won it or because you were given it absolutely is."
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT'S HOW YOU TRADE IT!

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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby aliassmith » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:31 pm

TheRumpledOne wrote:
aliassmith wrote:Why risk your money when you don't need to? Once I
have "free money" why should I risk my own!


Once you get it, it is YOUR MONEY.... not free money or house money... it is YOUR MONEY.

This is a mistake that many people make.


"Ah the fallacy of house money. No such thing. If you have it, or can cash it out, it's YOUR money. If you would like to assign a different risk tolerance to these "winnings" than your initial outlay, go for it. However, most people assign a irrational risk tolerance to "winnings" compared to, say, money received via gift."

" Fallacy is such an abused word but it refers to arguments that use poor reasoning and valuing money differently because you won it or because you were given it absolutely is."


I respectfully disagree. I value my bankroll more than my
winnings. I prefer to use less leverage and take less risk
with my bankroll. I'll use higher leverage and take more
risk with OPM. It works for me.
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:55 am

They are reaching.

Now M.O. gonna show me something about weekly range??????

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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:00 am

TheRumpledOne wrote:
aliassmith wrote:Why risk your money when you don't need to? Once I
have "free money" why should I risk my own!


Once you get it, it is YOUR MONEY.... not free money or house money... it is YOUR MONEY.

This is a mistake that many people make.


"Ah the fallacy of house money. No such thing. If you have it, or can cash it out, it's YOUR money. If you would like to assign a different risk tolerance to these "winnings" than your initial outlay, go for it. However, most people assign a irrational risk tolerance to "winnings" compared to, say, money received via gift."

" Fallacy is such an abused word but it refers to arguments that use poor reasoning and valuing money differently because you won it or because you were given it absolutely is."


I read a book about $ and it said the same thing.
Compartmentalizing $ was a HUGE error and trick our mind plays on itself.

BUT,
Without the mind game space wars goes in the TOILET.
As does any chance of me ever "winning" big.
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby aliassmith » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:30 am

prochargedmopar wrote:
TheRumpledOne wrote:
aliassmith wrote:Why risk your money when you don't need to? Once I
have "free money" why should I risk my own!


Once you get it, it is YOUR MONEY.... not free money or house money... it is YOUR MONEY.

This is a mistake that many people make.


"Ah the fallacy of house money. No such thing. If you have it, or can cash it out, it's YOUR money. If you would like to assign a different risk tolerance to these "winnings" than your initial outlay, go for it. However, most people assign a irrational risk tolerance to "winnings" compared to, say, money received via gift."

" Fallacy is such an abused word but it refers to arguments that use poor reasoning and valuing money differently because you won it or because you were given it absolutely is."


I read a book about $ and it said the same thing.
Compartmentalizing $ was a HUGE error and trick our mind plays on itself.

BUT,
Without the mind game space wars goes in the TOILET.
As does any chance of me ever "winning" big.


All I now is when I started believing this "fallacy" my
gains improved. If I have $200k at the beginning of the
year to trade with I'm damn sure I want to risk as little
of it as possible to get to my targets.

Go fishing with 0.5% and see if i can catch some space,
maybe about 4% to 9%. Then I'm more comfortable risking
1% per trade until the space gets big enough to risk 4%.
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:12 am

Once you get it, it is YOUR MONEY.... not free money or house money... it is YOUR MONEY.


100% of my trade account is "their money", but I control the daily/weekly withdrawal limits.

The person(s) on the other side of the trade has "my money" & it is my job to leverage "their money"
to get as much of "my money" as possible.

Once I get "my money" then it is moved to a safe location, a checking account :lol:

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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:29 am

MightyOne wrote:
Once you get it, it is YOUR MONEY.... not free money or house money... it is YOUR MONEY.


100% of my trade account is "their money", but I control the daily/weekly withdrawal limits.

The person(s) on the other side of the trade has "my money" & it is my job to leverage "their money"
to get as much of "my money" as possible.

Once I get "my money" then it is moved to a safe location, a checking account :lol:


In other words,
Your money is your money,
Their money is your money,
The brokers leverage money is your money,

My money is your money.
:shock:
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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby prochargedmopar » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:30 am

I'm long this pair right here.

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Re: ProchargedMopar's Trading Trilogy

Postby MightyOne » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:45 am

They are reaching.

Now M.O. gonna show me something about weekly range??????


Escape the weekly median range targets you say? Possible, but unlikely!

I remember when I first created the Crash Zone, all of the "it repaints!" complaints...
the red targets are projected upwards from the current weeks low, it is a RANGE EXPANSION
indicator you ".... ...."! :lol:

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