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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 am

BambinoFlex wrote:I haven't gone through the whole thread. Started watching the FuturesTraders71 video. Great information and I was able to understand the scaling out logic. Many mention scaling out but forget to include adjusting your stop, which is the whole reason for scaling out.

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Also, I thought "Dead Horse" was a different idea than Z-line trading. I reread your comment and it seems that its similar, if not the same. Highs/Lows being taken out.


First off FT71 is the man.

So dead horse is conceptually similar to zlines.
However the dead horse gives bias and you can have traditional zlines in a dead horse.

Traditional zlines is only one view of the zline concept.

Any time a candle breaks and closes outside the range of a previous candle a zline is created. This is because breakout traders did their thing and now are holding profit.

Now what happens? Did this group as a whole move their stop loss up to break even? It could now be micro supply/demand. Micro only meaning supply/demand pretaining to scalpers and daytraders. Then there is swing trade S/D and big chart S/D. Don't forget clustered S/D.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:37 am

Just now caught a $4 short on Gold XAUUSD. PRICE returning to a break out. $4 is basically 40 points. I think it was less than 5 minutes.

Good enough for Friday I'll try to catch up on my sleep. Options can wait until Monday.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:28 am

A little AUDJPY 5M for PRO
I'm sure he will hate it because of the 10 pips stop loss
BUT, if it is only about risking lines and making lines the 1 line gets you between 1 line to 4 lines.

DEad Horse
Zline Entry (traditional)
Risk .5% gets you .5% to 2% (All in/All out)

What if?
I added 1 unit at the 1x line and moved my position SL to BE (normalize)
I added 1 unit again at the 2x line and moved my position SL to BE
I added 1 unit again at the 3x line and moved my position SL to BE
50pips + 40pips + 30pips + 20pips = 140pips

Risking $100 to make $1400

There are many ways to manage a trade.

What if?
I closed 50% of my position at the 1x then the 2x then the 3x
1 lot down to .5 lot down to .25 lot
10pips + 5pips + 2.5pips = 17.5pips

Risking $100 to make $175
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby cheunt3 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:16 am

aliassmith wrote:A little AUDJPY 5M for PRO
I'm sure he will hate it because of the 10 pips stop loss
BUT, if it is only about risking lines and making lines the 1 line gets you between 1 line to 4 lines.

DEad Horse
Zline Entry (traditional)
Risk .5% gets you .5% to 2% (All in/All out)

What if?
I added 1 unit at the 1x line and moved my position SL to BE (normalize)
I added 1 unit again at the 2x line and moved my position SL to BE
I added 1 unit again at the 3x line and moved my position SL to BE
50pips + 40pips + 30pips + 20pips = 140pips

Risking $100 to make $1400

There are many ways to manage a trade.

What if?
I closed 50% of my position at the 1x then the 2x then the 3x
1 lot down to .5 lot down to .25 lot
10pips + 5pips + 2.5pips = 17.5pips

Risking $100 to make $175


Top quality post. :D
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby BambinoFlex » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:51 am

aliassmith wrote:A little AUDJPY 5M for PRO
I'm sure he will hate it because of the 10 pips stop loss
BUT, if it is only about risking lines and making lines the 1 line gets you between 1 line to 4 lines.

DEad Horse
Zline Entry (traditional)
Risk .5% gets you .5% to 2% (All in/All out)

What if?
I added 1 unit at the 1x line and moved my position SL to BE (normalize)
I added 1 unit again at the 2x line and moved my position SL to BE
I added 1 unit again at the 3x line and moved my position SL to BE
50pips + 40pips + 30pips + 20pips = 140pips

Risking $100 to make $1400

There are many ways to manage a trade.

What if?
I closed 50% of my position at the 1x then the 2x then the 3x
1 lot down to .5 lot down to .25 lot
10pips + 5pips + 2.5pips = 17.5pips

Risking $100 to make $175


So Dead Horse is the breakout trade. The z-line entry as you call it? That’s what you meant by bias I’m assuming?
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:56 am

BambinoFlex wrote:
aliassmith wrote:A little AUDJPY 5M for PRO
I'm sure he will hate it because of the 10 pips stop loss
BUT, if it is only about risking lines and making lines the 1 line gets you between 1 line to 4 lines.

DEad Horse
Zline Entry (traditional)
Risk .5% gets you .5% to 2% (All in/All out)

What if?
I added 1 unit at the 1x line and moved my position SL to BE (normalize)
I added 1 unit again at the 2x line and moved my position SL to BE
I added 1 unit again at the 3x line and moved my position SL to BE
50pips + 40pips + 30pips + 20pips = 140pips

Risking $100 to make $1400

There are many ways to manage a trade.

What if?
I closed 50% of my position at the 1x then the 2x then the 3x
1 lot down to .5 lot down to .25 lot
10pips + 5pips + 2.5pips = 17.5pips

Risking $100 to make $175


So Dead Horse is the breakout trade. The z-line entry as you call it? That’s what you meant by bias I’m assuming?


20sma or 21sma is initial bias
Zline is additional bias and trigger
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby prochargedmopar » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:12 am

aliassmith wrote:A little AUDJPY 5M for PRO
I'm sure he will hate it because of the 10 pips stop loss
BUT, if it is only about risking lines and making lines the 1 line gets you between 1 line to 4 lines.

DEad Horse
Zline Entry (traditional)
Risk .5% gets you .5% to 2% (All in/All out)

What if?
I added 1 unit at the 1x line and moved my position SL to BE (normalize)
I added 1 unit again at the 2x line and moved my position SL to BE
I added 1 unit again at the 3x line and moved my position SL to BE
50pips + 40pips + 30pips + 20pips = 140pips

Risking $100 to make $1400

There are many ways to manage a trade.

What if?
I closed 50% of my position at the 1x then the 2x then the 3x
1 lot down to .5 lot down to .25 lot
10pips + 5pips + 2.5pips = 17.5pips

Risking $100 to make $175


10 pips is 2 lines.
That's what I'm using now.
Risk 2 lines of H1 and goal is to make 3.5 (1-5 is fine) 5 better. LOL
It's just most trades you rarely use past ONE line drawdown or less, which is a good thing.

OPM is always re-invested in the total risk box until account double or lot size is maxed to margin available.
THEN, drop back to 1% risk box and go for next double.
Even if it takes me 3-4 months (or even 6mo) for each double, still closer to my goal than collecting cans for a past time.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:28 am

How about 5M XAUUSD failed zline targeting H1 liquidity?
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:56 am

aliassmith wrote:How about 5M XAUUSD failed zline targeting H1 liquidity?


Price moved from my entry to exits back to entry. Zeroed out.
I think I heard this story before.
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Re: Aliassmith Beats a "Dead Horse"

Postby aliassmith » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:30 pm

GBPUSD 5M
DEADhorse
Zline
Again
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