NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby IgazI » Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:46 pm

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Scaling Into Trades

Postby IgazI » Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:38 pm

When scaling into a trade you do not want to be more than 50% invested early on:
1 + 1 + 2 = 1R
1 + 2 + 3 = 1R
2 + 3 + 5 = 1R

Take entry:
1 - when you're 52% sure about a move.
2 - when price makes a move.
3 - when the midpoint between your 2nd and 3rd entry feels like a safe location for a stop loss.

If you are not more than 50% invested then it doesn't really matter what price does because you will not be facing the possibility of a large loss.
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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby Wizzlebizzle » Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 am

When I started collecting my own data and making my own observations a couple of years ago I discovered something interesting. I was tempted to put it on another form, just to get some confirmation on wether I was right or maybe made an error somewhere. I ended up not sharing it, because I thought if it were true it was too valuable to share on that particular forum.

I was playing around with the usual "beginner" tactics of "moving stop to break even after X amount in profit" and "taking half the position off at 1:1" and my conclusion was that they were both worse than just letting a position run. Then I delved deeper into why this is, from a mathematical standpoint. I remember pretty much proving (with some very simple formulas, I'm no math hero at all) that it makes mathematical sense to add to you positions.

Nothing new on this forum I know. But still great to find out on your own with own found evidence. I'll see later if I can find my findings in my notebook.

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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby Jhx » Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:23 pm

Wizzlebizzle wrote:When I started collecting my own data and making my own observations a couple of years ago I discovered something interesting. I was tempted to put it on another form, just to get some confirmation on wether I was right or maybe made an error somewhere. I ended up not sharing it, because I thought if it were true it was too valuable to share on that particular forum.

I was playing around with the usual "beginner" tactics of "moving stop to break even after X amount in profit" and "taking half the position off at 1:1" and my conclusion was that they were both worse than just letting a position run. Then I delved deeper into why this is, from a mathematical standpoint. I remember pretty much proving (with some very simple formulas, I'm no math hero at all) that it makes mathematical sense to add to you positions.

Nothing new on this forum I know. But still great to find out on your own with own found evidence. I'll see later if I can find my findings in my notebook.


That's interesting. If you happen to find your notes please go a bit more into that :D

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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby IgazI » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:49 pm

Wizzlebizzle wrote:When I started collecting my own data and making my own observations a couple of years ago I discovered something interesting. I was tempted to put it on another form, just to get some confirmation on wether I was right or maybe made an error somewhere. I ended up not sharing it, because I thought if it were true it was too valuable to share on that particular forum.

I was playing around with the usual "beginner" tactics of "moving stop to break even after X amount in profit" and "taking half the position off at 1:1" and my conclusion was that they were both worse than just letting a position run. Then I delved deeper into why this is, from a mathematical standpoint. I remember pretty much proving (with some very simple formulas, I'm no math hero at all) that it makes mathematical sense to add to you positions.

Nothing new on this forum I know. But still great to find out on your own with own found evidence. I'll see later if I can find my findings in my notebook.


It's no mystery: time = range, size = money, time in the market with size = range & money.

I scale into trades because I realize that
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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby Jhx » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:57 pm

But when talking about scaling in like this, we're only talking about putting all the initial R at play, right?
It's not the same as adding in the sense of stacking, or is it?

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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby Wizzlebizzle » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:31 pm

Jhx wrote:
Wizzlebizzle wrote:When I started collecting my own data and making my own observations a couple of years ago I discovered something interesting. I was tempted to put it on another form, just to get some confirmation on wether I was right or maybe made an error somewhere. I ended up not sharing it, because I thought if it were true it was too valuable to share on that particular forum.

I was playing around with the usual "beginner" tactics of "moving stop to break even after X amount in profit" and "taking half the position off at 1:1" and my conclusion was that they were both worse than just letting a position run. Then I delved deeper into why this is, from a mathematical standpoint. I remember pretty much proving (with some very simple formulas, I'm no math hero at all) that it makes mathematical sense to add to you positions.

Nothing new on this forum I know. But still great to find out on your own with own found evidence. I'll see later if I can find my findings in my notebook.


That's interesting. If you happen to find your notes please go a bit more into that :D


I can't seem to find it. I'll be able to regurgitate the gist of it when I have some time at hand.

This is another reason I would like one of them E-ink note taking devices :D

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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby IgazI » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:51 pm

Jhx wrote:But when talking about scaling in like this, we're only talking about putting all the initial R at play, right?
It's not the same as adding in the sense of stacking, or is it?


'Stacking' focuses on maximizing profit whereas 'scaling in' is more about minimizing risk.
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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby IgazI » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:59 pm

Wizzlebizzle wrote:
I can't seem to find it. I'll be able to regurgitate the gist of it when I have some time at hand.

This is another reason I would like one of them E-ink note taking devices :D


You should try Obsidian w/ the basics of how to use it and possibly take a course if you have money to burn. . .

or you could look for YT videos.
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Re: NCA 2: THE CHARTBOOK

Postby Wizzlebizzle » Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:18 pm

IgazI wrote:
Wizzlebizzle wrote:
I can't seem to find it. I'll be able to regurgitate the gist of it when I have some time at hand.

This is another reason I would like one of them E-ink note taking devices :D


You should try Obsidian w/ the basics of how to use it and possibly take a course if you have money to burn. . .

or you could look for YT videos.


Thanks. That looks handy indeed. I prefer to be able to work away from a PC, I lose my edge when I am behind my PC, especially in terms of flow.

I'm thinking along the lines of this https://remarkable.com. or https://supernote.com

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