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Postby trueblueTEX » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:20 pm

I finally find a short zline on M15 and go long at the up arrow.

If that is correct, I end up with 50+pips of dd before price actually goes up.

Am I still doing this correctly? :-)

Edit: actually I found TWO short zlines and go long on break of second...
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Postby trueblueTEX » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:24 pm

MightyOne wrote:... Can you tell what I am doing? :lol:


Yes. Making more money than me and learning Chinese.
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Postby MightyOne » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:49 pm

trueblueTEX wrote:
MightyOne wrote:... Can you tell what I am doing? :lol:


Yes. Making more money than me and learning Chinese.
:lol:


8) :lol:

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Postby dojirock » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:07 am

All 3 shifts are short bias. Broken Long bias if you look left..I didnt draw the line. So where are we going? My stop is at the top.
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Postby dojirock » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:09 am

3cc's
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Postby dojirock » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:12 am

Can you see the red zline. This 5 min chart with 3cc could just be the trade to retrace back when the bias on the 30 min 3cc (m90) is actually still long. If it breaks that with momentum...were going down...
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Postby trueblueTEX » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:28 am

dojirock wrote:All 3 shifts are short bias. Broken Long bias if you look left..I didnt draw the line. So where are we going? My stop is at the top.


Doji, you Rock!

As soon as I saw your post I opened an M30 chart but didn't see any zlines.

Price came down real nice regardless of what I didn't see ;-)

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Postby MightyOne » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:19 am

2xCC is plenty of information.

In 3xCC you will notice that 2 of the 3 charts give you nearly the exact same information.

You just construct your 30 minute using 2 15-minute periods and then shift the start time forward by one period for the second chart.

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Postby cwn6161 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:36 am

MightyOne wrote:
cwn6161 wrote:
MightyOne wrote:I used 3xCC to find S/D before switching over to a 2xCC for the sake of simplicity.

A question I often get is, "what if I don't get the patterns: large-smaller-smaller or small-larger-larger, how will I feel for S/D?".

The answer is that you really need multiple versions (shifts) of the same period:

For instance, you start with a day created from three eight-hour periods.
You then shift the start time forward eight hours for the second chart and another 8 hours for the third chart leaving you with three versions of the daily chart.

In 3xCC there are 3 shifts and in 2xCC there are two possible shifts.

As you have seen, it is possible to feel for S/D without shifts but you will often need to use a bit of added guesswork.

With multiple monitors your setup might be:

2xCC or 2 versions of a period to feel for S/D

Heiken-Ashi, Line Chart, & Point N Figure for a more rounded perspective

-The Bible says that many advisors (different perspectives) makes victory sure.


I had tried HA for some time but was always confused in areas of congestion. The bar patterns are easier to see IMO and give you nice places to stop and plan for future movement.


This is how I most commonly use HA:

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Can you tell what I am doing? :lol:


Heh yeah, I see where you're going with this. The whole concept is like a Where's Waldo book. If you know what Waldo looks like you can find him in any picture.

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Postby trueblueTEX » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:57 am

Hey MO,

I've spent the last 2 hours reading your posts in NLA. I've never read these before!!! From 2008.

I started in 2010 and never read more than a smattering of that thread but read the DTB threads instead.

I have never understood what people meant when they said "held profits" but I think I see after reading your posts back then.

I also never thought of the connection to break outs. I'll keep reading tomorrow.

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