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Postby onontsira » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:55 pm

I thought bias was taken from the first candle that broke the Zl (at the left) but it is the second one at the right!!!... I was totally at the opposite...

News said it before: "It's not a momentum continuation thing (outside bar, retrace and continuation) at all, it's a momentum failure thing and hooking up when they're trying to get out for break-even at the other side."

So, in this EURAUD case, you draw your ZL all the way down and it becomes active once a higher tf candle closes above it at the right (and you go long)

Am I close?

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Postby dragon33 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:05 pm

Hey Doji seems like a replay to me :P
You are doing a good job and i really hope that the followers learn from it.

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Keep up the work the more people who can do this the better you will feel.
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Postby FXfreak » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:54 pm

hi doji,

i tried to understand your logic of zlines and made a little exercise...did i draw the zlines correctly?



thanks!

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Postby seacap » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:30 pm

Thanks newscalper and dojirock.
Below is the same chart later in the day. I could add 2 more zlines, but I am not sure that I draw it the same way as you do. Let me know if I am on the right way.
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Postby pariah » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:34 pm

ONO - I look at Supply and Demand. Clusters/Areas where price spend alot of time. UJ has hit some extreme areas of Supply, in fact there are 2 major supply levels price has to break in order to continue upwards. My overall bias was finding some area where I could go short, as I assume there would be Sellers waiting up top.

I've close the trade, I had 2 simultaneous trades on UJ as priced hooked back into a lower zline. Out with 20pips est.


FxFreak - Below is a chart for EU, where price has hit a major H1 zline/ R line. If prices continue to close below, this may be a sell.
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Postby dojirock » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:53 pm

FxFreak & Seacap,

You guys are getting it...cool....
It always takes Momentum to break Momentum!
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Postby dojirock » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:54 pm

Hi Dragon,

Great to see ya! Your right.... Its all a repeat. Just another way to explain it....lol

They seem to be catching on!
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Postby newscalper » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:30 pm

dojirock wrote:Dont get crazy but it even works on a 1 min, 3CC chart.....

:D :smt043 :smt068


yeah - that's exactly what I was saying and illustrated with the DIY picture - it's simple logic: to be long the reason to be short has to be gone, to be short the reason to be long has to be gone.

There are some that get away though - I couldn't see a way to get in on this today on the basis I was looking at it. - I'd marked up H1 lines, was waiting for H4 to close then entry on 15. H4 closed over the red line, good, but it went and went and is now at a price I'd want to get out at

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Or do you consider old Z lines too because there are ones there at the bottom if you look WAY over to the left.

When I personally start doing that though is when I get into trouble - it's the same thing as looking at higher TFs to see further back and with me it just me into a fug re which way to go again.

I'm sure there was a way i non smaller TFs but I wasn't looking at those

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Postby FXfreak » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:59 pm

doji, is this correct:
1. look for zline on m30
2. wait until we get a close below/above zline on h1 -> this is our bias
3. trade on m15 in direction of our bias

if yes: why don't we take a m30 close above/below as our bias? why do we need h1?

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Postby dojirock » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:41 pm

If we dont get a close accross our zline then you trade away from it.
If we do get a close on the next time frame up, my thinking is knowing that it takes momentum to break a zline, that the hourly doing that will continue to go. It cant stop on a dime. Where as a same time frame close above could come back and close below, thus leaving us with a wick in hindsight.
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